You should have no problem whatsoever….

Just to add to Justice58, I went canvassing in Cincinnati yesterday. I learned that Clinton has no grassroots ground operation going on in Ohio. That truly is poor planning on her part. I just want to shake people and say, “the woman can’t even run a campaign. How do you expect her to run a country?”

This election has really highlighted why feminism makes me uncomfortable – thank you Rebecca Walker, for laying it out so clearly. As a young, poor woman who loves good men (not to mention good dissent), feminism doesn’t have much to say to me and surely does not speak for me. I respect my elders. I just don’t agree with them.

Turns out I’m a much better humanist than feminist.

Yes, Texas has more delegates, but Ohio is more critical in some ways.

An Obama win in Ohio would stop the madness once and for all.

Amen Black Snob, amen. You might like the 2/27 post over at What Tami Said, she’s another sister feeling left out, left behind and run over by the Feminist movement.

http://whattamisaid.blogspot.com/2008/02/is-2008-presidential-election-bad-for.html#links

There are other bloggers and some limited discussions on women of color and the feminist movement, but you might have greater success finding them using the academic terms, try : intersectionality and critical race theory ($2 terms for what black AND female gets ya’).

On the moving the goal posts front: CNN had commentators on yesterday stating that they now believed that Clinton could hang on to her vaibility even if she lost Texas or Ohio as long as she had a win, however minor, in the other state. As I understood it, she could then claim to have the ability to win the more important swing states and therefore continue to argue she has better electability.

I am pretty sure it was on this blog that I first heard of this Hail Mary strategy or something similar to this. Well, I guess you called it.

I’ll be working the phones calling Texas tonight to help out the Obama Campaign. Let’s hope he takes both by a landslide so we can end this foolishness already and start looking ahead to November.

Dayum! You’re good! I like it so much!

I actually think the press, save for their lust in the Somali picture and the Farrahkan question, they’ve tended to report mostly on the strong wave of positivity under Obama’s campaign. The press is obsessed with Hillary due to the love-hate relationship the Clintons have always had with the press. I just worry what the Chris Matthewses and Bill O’Reillys of the world will do after Barack defeats Hillary and becomes the nominee.

I felt the SNL skits sort of reflected that, but I didn’t care for Tina Fey’s pro-Hillary “bitches get stuff done” tirade (mostly because I may or may not have misinterpreted the intent of her phrase “bitch is the new black” which conjured up flashbacks of how white women have sometimes behaved as if their plight was worse or equal to that of blacks.)

But last night’s cartoon I did not find funny at all. It made the illusion that Obama was running away from the black community. Like or not like Jesse n’ Al, they are major figures in recent civil rights causes and Jesse is a hold over from the ministers who worked with MLK. So to reject them in the way that many whites see Jesse n’ Al as buffoons and race agitators is basically saying Obama has to reject blackness to win and that he’s running away from us.

Nothing’s further from the truth. Jesse is for Obama. Obama is working with all segements of the black community and to be honest, if he weren’t speaking directly to black concerns and needs, addressing the black community and campaigning to us, not as many black people would be voting for him because they’d pick up on the racial rejection. He’d be with the JC Wattses of the world.

As for the feminist issue, I too feel like often the feminist view is geared towards white women as if they are the only one’s who face sexism. I can sympathize with some of the sexism Hillary’s faced on the trail, but I rarely see that empathy returned to black women who also struggle against double discrimination and misogyny within both black and white culture.

I figured out a long time ago that black women in the eyes of American society really aren’t considered “women.” (And for that matter, black men really aren’t care for that much either) When we get sick, when we are hurt, when we die there is less interest and no media coverage.

If a young white woman is in peril it’s at the top of the hour during CNN, MSNBC and FOX’s news cycle. If a black woman goes missing, is gruesomely murdered, raped or abused no one gives a crap. We could recite Sojourner Truth’s “Ain’t I A Woman” speech and it would still be relevant today.

If I had been Hillary’s political strategist I would not have advised the stealth bigotry campaign in SC. Blacks have too fine developed of a racism detector. She would have been better off appealing to black issues and selling herself to the community than whatever the hell they were trying to accomplish by the murmurs and whispering.

I think they made the mistake of thinking they could finesse their way out of it. Bill Clinton was good at this, doing things that irked blacks from time to time, but at the same time, returning to the black community to smooth things over rather successfully. But Hillary is no Bill and black people aren’t going to tolerate any bigoted attacks on the only black man in the race.

I do feel Clinton as well as other white feminists were pissed that Obama had the gall to show up and “steal” what Clinton would have handily won if he weren’t in the race. I’m a feminist and despite Hillary’s scorched earth policy, I can believe that she’s a feminist as well (the white women at least think so), I just think she took the black vote for granted and hadn’t factored in the possibility she was going have to fight for it. Then rather than fight she just alienated people.

As a black woman, more often than not, you have to choose where you’re going to stand on things. And despite being a feminist, I’m black first. I have to be. I don’t even see it as a choice. You can’t sell me the notion that Hillary Clinton had bigger hurdles to over come than Barack Obama. I know how difficult it is to be both black and a woman.

Being black is a bitch.

Sorry so long, but I was just so fascinated by the comments and Rebecca Walker’s commentary. Aside from the occasional bell hooks reading, you just don’t hear a lot of talk about black women and feminism.

I’m no Buckley fan (R.I.P.) but way back in 1960 something, even he said the voters are smarter than their elected officials, a conservatism that has been lost in the reporting of this campaign but is showing itself in the actual outcomes to date. “I’d rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the phone book than by the 2,000 people who teach at Harvard.”

The phone book is picking Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton whose campaign has been nothing but dry lectures and bitterness.

Obama is making people believe in themselves, and that is his biggest calling card. Clinton wants us to believe in her, but given how untrustworthy she is, that’s a tough, tough sell.

Thanks. That’s encouraging news to hear!

lloyd,

I get what you’re saying. It is an irrational anger towards Obama. Basically, they’re mad at the media and what they perceive to be unfair treatment. So, they turn all of that anger towards Obama, a person who ain’t got jack to do with any of that stuff. It’s sour grapes. And it always comeback to “that uppity negro cut in line!”

I heard that 650,000 people early voted. Obama is well organized & has his people on the ground even in some of the smallest counties. It’s unbelievable. When you have lines for early voting in some of these counties–that’s a big deal!

It’s looking good for Obama because he has people on the ground doing their job! They’re on their game in the “get out the vote”!

I’ve seen others suggest that SNL’s cartoon skit basically plays into white America’s fears that Obama is really the stereotypical “black” candidate who hides his black nationalist, Al Sharpton lovin’, Jesse Jackson quoting intentions from his followers.

For some reason, Hillary’s SNL appearance commands front page attention on some of the news websites.

I’d like to ignore the SNL stuff. I don’t want to start sounding like the Clinton campaign. But I was just wondering what y’all were thinking.

I really share your sentiment: WE NEED TO END THIS!!!

The thing that makes me nervous is the fact that the media still allows Hillary to set the rules of engagement. They allow her to keep moving the goal posts and lower her expectations.

We need to end this, if only for the following reason – the media has two headlines ready to role for the morning of March 5:

1. “Obama’s impressive victories lock up Democratic Nomination”

or…

2. “Hillary is the COMEBACK KID! Why can’t Obama close the deal?”

Now, obviously, the second headline ignores the MATH. It ignores the fact that she’d have to start winning by 20% in most, if not all, of these states.

But I fear that the media is gullible enough, and the electorate uninformed enough to know that a 5% win by Clinton in Texas and/or Ohio is still a DEFEAT in the context of the delegate race.

Obama needs to do a better job of pushing the MATH! Hillary is positioning herself to try and win this thing on the cheap – to win by perception and cloud the truth so much that people will forget the fact that she’ll need super delegates and MI/FL to steal this thing from Obama.

Message to OH and TX: You have the power to change the direction of this country for the better. You have the opportunity to save the Democratic Party from another month or two of partisan infighting and Hillary’s gutter politics. You have the power to bring the Party together and prevent McCain from having 2 more months of unopposed preparation. Please come through! Vote Obama!

WE NEED TO END THIS NOW!!!

How strong does Clinton look in Texas?

I’ve noticed that some of the polls have actually underestimated Obama’s performance in recent contests (e.g., only being up 3-5% in Wisconsin, but winning easily by 17-18%). What’s the early voting looking like? Do people have a good grasp of the primary/caucus hybrid?

It seems like the polls can’t accurately account for certain groups that heavily support Obama: 1.) young voters who are more likely to use cell phones; 2.) first time voters; and 3.) independents and cross-over republicans (who overwhelmingly support Obama.

Do you get the feeling that he could win big in Texas? Or does Hillary still have a fighter’s chance?

We need to END THIS THING on Tuesday! Bring it home! Go OBAMA!!!

I totally agree. Every single day the pundits are looking for ways for Hillary to make a come back. It’s sickening! They would be hounding Barack daily to get out…now!

Enough of the BS!

I just came back from an Obama meeting in my county (Texas) and you would not believe the excitement for Obama. I’m talking old people, (set in their ways) young people, Blacks, Whites, Hispanics ready for March 4th. We’re ready to give Hillary that knock out blow! It’s time to end this sh%t!

Yeah, skip the drama, vote Obama

:)

Her people have said some inflammatory things which she claims she had no knowledge of(lie). What does this say for her management skills? Is she going to complain that she’s being treated unfairly when that call comes at 3 am..lol?

I guess I don’t have to spell it out, I really dislike her. My feelings became intense when I realized what the Clinton’s did in S. Carolina. She is not a feminist. She is a multi-millionaire former first lady who has been accused of using the IRS to go after opponents and of harassing her husband’s victims. I don’t believe she is who she claims to be.

http://nocpost.blogspot.com/

Peace & Blessings,

NOCMan