Jack & Jill Politics

IF I had the money, I’d offer 1 million dollars to the first White Man willing to go 12 months AS A BLACK MAN, 24/7 in this country. Drop him off in any major American city, and have him make it a YEAR.

20 years from now, that money would still be there, waiting to be collected.

More proof of the transendence of race!

I’ve never heard him tell Rachel to shut up when she was effectively contesting his position.

Kudos to Rachel Maddow though. She consisently gives a fair an unbiased opinion on whatever issue.

All I can think about now is the great Chris Rock stand up back around 1999 or so:

“Man, the white man thinks
he’s losing the country.
You watch the news: ‘We’re losing
everything. We’re fucking losing.
Affirmative action, and illegal aliens…and we’re fucking losing the country.’

Losing? Shut the **** up.
White people ain’t losing shit.
If y’all losing, who’s winning?

It ain’t us.

There ain’t a white man in this room that would change places with me. None of you would change places with me. And l’m rich!

That’s how good it is to be white.

There’s a white, one-legged busboy
in here right now that won’t change places with my black ass.

He’s going, ‘No, man, I don’t wanna switch. I wanna ride this white thing out. See where it takes me.’

That’s right, ’cause when you white, the sky’s the limit.

When you black, the limit’s the sky!

I contacted MSNBC regarding Buchanan’s behavior and think everyone should.

This was soooooooooooo disrespectful. She is an articulate, intelligent journalist and should be respected as such. I think he should be called out on this. Racist pig.

This thread is a ridiculous waste of time.

justice58,

Your lack of respect for fellow posters is very disturbing. Is this not intended to be a forum for discussion? Or is it simply an opportunity for a vocal few to shout down and insult anyone who may have a concern or even (gasp) a disagreement?

I have only recently discovered JJP, hoping to learn more about Obama, through some of his most ardent supporters. I have learned much and gained new insight.

Your inapporpriate comments to posters who are fellow Obama supporters, and the vitriol and venom you spew is truly far worse than anything Pat Buchanan said in this clip.

Out!

I find it interesting that men talk over each other all the time on MSNBC and CNN – and at no time have I ever heard a white man tell another white man to shut up. They mix it up, and then always smile at the end and probably have a drink.

Terrence:

Have you designated yourself the voice of reason on this blog?

Pat Buchanan continuously spoke over Keli just as he does everyone who attempts to make a point opposite of his. I think Abrams was telling Pig to let her speak.

In fact, if you pay closer attention, you would notice that the commentators continuously try to direct the conversation in a way that makes their point. There is almost always an apparent directive for the tone of the discussion.

Anon out!

Good! Stay gone.

I agree. Panelists speak over each other ALL the time. It’s rude but there should be no free pass on telling her to shut up as if she were a child or his dog!

Even Rachel called him out on it but leave it to Terrence to be the “voice of reaon” and agree with the disrespectful proven racist!

Oh please, just because Pat Buchanan and others talk over one another (which is rude regardless of who does it) it doesn’t excuse Goff’s behavior. Goff and that other woman speaking over Buchanan, were rude no matter how you slice it.

In fact, their speaking over him, against the moderator’s wishes, was their way of telling him to “shut up”.

Again, both were rude. In my opinion, Buchanan telling Goff to “shut up” had nothing to do with race. Even Dan Abrams tried politely to nudge her to allow his guest to speak, but she kept bumping her gums. Buchanan is an asshole, but Goff was not exhibiting herself as a saint either.

Like I said, both of them were wrong.

So now Pat is a helpless white man!! On a white show living in a white world?????? POOR PAT! Can’t handle two women who are just as agressive as he is! At least not with respect.

Anon 9:18

Two women that are clearly more intelligent than he is

Terrence:

Kelli was in no way rude. She was clearly on a mission as was every black journalist who was interviewed or participated in a debate on resided on a panel over the days surrounding the Ferraro remarks understandbly outraged.

Hats off too them for speaking out against Ferraro’s comments even if they had to struggle to make their points over some loud, fast-talking moderators and panelist who were clearly trying to leave an impression that there wasn’t nothing racist about the Ferraro comments.

Lele Hill:

Kelli told Pat Buchanan not to speak to her in that way, but you could barely hear her because he was talking over her. I didn’t hear it until I heard it a second time.

Lele, you are reaching. Kelly most certainly spoke up for herself and Rachel did 2nd her!

Goldenah:

They work until the advertisers that pay for them to speak start to lose money.

LeLe, so that makes how he treated her OK? She doesn’t have to answer him anyway. She was there to make her point! Who says he is in control? And I reaaaaly don’t think he would even have done a white person that way- particularly a MAN! Maybe it was sexist NOT racist. At any rate- no excuse!

I agree w/Pat B. Obama was caught in another lie. Just like the lies he told about why he voted to fund the Iraq war or why he didn’t vote to keep the CC interest rate at no higher than 30% or why he campaigned for Lieberman against an anti-war candidate:

For 20 years, Barack has attended Wright’s church, listened to his weekly sermons, entertained him in his home. Yet, says Barack, he never heard any racist rants at church, nor was he aware that Wright held so poisoned a view of his country.

Sorry, that is not credible. Wright is a famous preacher in black America, and Barack’s denial he was aware of his views marks him down either as a dissembler or a man so obtuse he ought not be a security guard at Wal-Mart, let alone president of the United States.

It is easy now to understand why Michelle Obama, before Barack began to win, had never once been proud of her country. Who could be proud of the America that lives in the malignant imagination of the Rev. Wright?

Barack has now moved to separate himself from Wright’s rants and removed him from the campaign roster. And he will likely be forced, with anguish, to turn his back on, repudiate, and reject his beloved friend and teacher.

But it is too late for that. For Wright has, for millions of Americans, filled in the blanks about Barack. Wright tells us the kind of company Barack keeps, the kind of men he holds close, the kind of attitudes and beliefs he finds acceptable, if not congenial.