Comments on: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act) http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:25:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nita http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7860 Nita Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:37:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7860 Thank you, Jack.<br/><br/>And thank you, D. Thank you, Jack.

And thank you, D.

]]> By: BigAssBelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7852 BigAssBelle Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:17:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7852 just as in the country at large, this eloquent post about the tragedy of iraq draws little interest.<br/><br/>7 comments above my own, while the latest clinton v. obama outrage has dozens. <br/><br/>george bush's campaign to make this war invisible has been almost wholly effective. what a fucking travesty.<br/><br/>dick cheney, when told 2/3 of the american people want the war to end:<br/><br/>"So?"<br/><br/>the american people, when told of the ongoing tragedy of iraq:<br/><br/>"So?" just as in the country at large, this eloquent post about the tragedy of iraq draws little interest.

7 comments above my own, while the latest clinton v. obama outrage has dozens.

george bush’s campaign to make this war invisible has been almost wholly effective. what a fucking travesty.

dick cheney, when told 2/3 of the american people want the war to end:

“So?”

the american people, when told of the ongoing tragedy of iraq:

“So?”

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7828 D. Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:46:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7828 Jack,<br/>Though this isn't the hot issue right now, wanted to point some things out.<br/><br/>The original Winter Soldier investigation has been, over time, proven to be a farce. Of 48 cases that were investigated by Army CID, only one had enough evidence to substantiate it. This investigation was put on by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW).<br/><br/>Fast forward to 2008. Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW)-a spinoff of VVAW-holds their Winter Soldier investigation under tight security (including sharpshooters on the roof!) at the National Labor College in MD. The hearings were NOT open to the public, with the exception of some media (mostly IVAW allies and supporters, with a few pro-mission/military bloggers invited in the name of "fairness").<br/><br/>Why am I going through all this?<br/><br/>My views on the war are somewhat well know, and I know where you (and the majority of JJP) stands as well. However, to introduce this sort of information-which has been neither vetted or verified through outside research-is a little bit dangerous. Jack,
Though this isn’t the hot issue right now, wanted to point some things out.

The original Winter Soldier investigation has been, over time, proven to be a farce. Of 48 cases that were investigated by Army CID, only one had enough evidence to substantiate it. This investigation was put on by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW).

Fast forward to 2008. Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW)-a spinoff of VVAW-holds their Winter Soldier investigation under tight security (including sharpshooters on the roof!) at the National Labor College in MD. The hearings were NOT open to the public, with the exception of some media (mostly IVAW allies and supporters, with a few pro-mission/military bloggers invited in the name of “fairness”).

Why am I going through all this?

My views on the war are somewhat well know, and I know where you (and the majority of JJP) stands as well. However, to introduce this sort of information-which has been neither vetted or verified through outside research-is a little bit dangerous.

]]> By: justice58 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7776 justice58 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:45:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7776 Angela,<br/><br/>This happened after the Iowa Caucus! Someone wanted to know about this new rising star! Angela,

This happened after the Iowa Caucus! Someone wanted to know about this new rising star!

]]> By: Angela http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7774 Angela Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:38:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7774 to justic58<br/><br/>I just heard that...the fall out remains. to justic58

I just heard that…the fall out remains.

]]> By: justice58 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7772 justice58 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:32:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7772 There was a security breach in Obama passport files in January 2008. 2 employees(contract employees) have been fired & a 3rd person disciplined! And it'S just now revealed!!! <br/><br/>WTF! There was a security breach in Obama passport files in January 2008. 2 employees(contract employees) have been fired & a 3rd person disciplined! And it’S just now revealed!!!

WTF!

]]> By: Angela http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7766 Angela Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:50:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7766 Just tonight the media is reporting how some of our troops are being electrocuted in showers and swimming pools because of deficient contractors....<br/><br/>This is obscene...and who voted for this war...Clinton and McCain.<br/><br/>This is an outrage!!!!!!! Just tonight the media is reporting how some of our troops are being electrocuted in showers and swimming pools because of deficient contractors….

This is obscene…and who voted for this war…Clinton and McCain.

This is an outrage!!!!!!!

]]> By: Angela http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7764 Angela Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:29:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7764 The bottom line is all of these people need to publically support Sen. Obama.<br/><br/>Clinton and McCain are from the same frame of mind.<br/><br/>It is one thing to express your views, but action in support or the candidate who is aligned with your views is important.<br/><br/>Don't let this be wasted....support Sen. Obama. The bottom line is all of these people need to publically support Sen. Obama.

Clinton and McCain are from the same frame of mind.

It is one thing to express your views, but action in support or the candidate who is aligned with your views is important.

Don’t let this be wasted….support Sen. Obama.

]]> By: Ms.Martin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/iraq-5-years-later-i-am-ashamed-i-beg-you-read-watch-and-act/comment-page-1/#comment-7762 Ms.Martin Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:02:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=978#comment-7762 OMG. Another 100 years!<br/><br/>The first soldier needs to stomp with Obama. OMG. Another 100 years!

The first soldier needs to stomp with Obama.

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