Hillary And That Bosnian Sniper Fire – Great Video

24 Mar 2008 Author: Baratunde Thurston (Jack Turner)

Update 6:48pm eastern
Ooooh, I get it. She “misspoke”

Asked today to square her recent descriptions with these accounts, Howard Wolfson, her spokesman, referred to several contemporaneous news accounts that described the region as hostile. He then added: “It is possible in the most recent instance in which she discussed this that she misspoke in regard to the exit from the plane, but there is no question if you look at contemporaneous accounts that she was going to a potential combat zone, that she was on the front lines.”

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Angela
Hillary, who has been making this big claim all along that she has been “vetted” (how inspiring is that?) and that she won’t be swiftboated….just did that….she swiftboated herself!
I have sent this video to my Kentucky Democratic governor who hasn’t endorsed and my local Democratic congressman who hasn’t endorsed.
The bottom line is this tape will be used relentlessly by the Republicans and what is so bad is they will have other tapes where she contradicts herself over and over again.
The super delegates must know she is done for. All of us should urge all of our local delegates who haven’t endorsed to end this Democractic party cannabilism.
This tape used in the general election will be used to make Hillary nothing more than a cartoon.
rikyrah
Johnathan Alter and Olbermann were downright hilarious as they went through all HER LIES TONIGHT.
TruthSeeker
The operative word by Wolfson is “potential” combat zone.
As feared, Lou Dobbs is talking about Kwame and shows a clip of him saying he’s been called a “nigger” etc, followed by a piece on Otis Moss, Trinity’s new pastor. Otis is saying something about being “lynched”. Then they talk about Obama.
This is not good. I wonder if these people understand the concept of humility, stillness…laying low, keeping their mouths shut?
Great Spirit,
There are enemies on all sides, even among our own.
Save us from the scourge of applied victimization. Guard us from the overarching egos of preachers. Give us the strength to stand against those who seek to keep us in chains. Protect us from the ones who will benefit from our continued subservience.
I am no Christian, but this passage is fitting:
Matthew 10:16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the middle of wolves: be you therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
TruthSeeker
@ rikyrah,
On CNN they just showed a clip of her telling a story of a little red brick house, their first home that Bill bought for her. Her tone was unbelievable, like she was telling a story to little kids. I bet it’s another lie…problem is, there’s virtually no way to verify.
justice58
Hillary is a liar! Gunfire my @ss!
TruthSeeker
I’ve said before that I think this woman – Hillary – is insane, but people think I’m being facetious. This kind of crazy is the catching kind. It seems it infects anyone connected with Hillary’s campaign. The slobbering madness of believing something they are entitled to is being taken away.
The Clinton’s cause their supporters to sacrifice their integrity for them..and they don’t even deserve this level of devotion.
Ms.Martin
James Carlville has also gone crazy!
Ms.Martin
Why is this bald-face lie called mispeak? She’s a liar. She’s a liar and her husband is a liar.
This statement was made in an effort to convince people of her foreign policy experience which has proven to be non-existent yet there is no major news coverage.
McCain had a “senior moment” and confused the warring factions in Iraq and it’s not reported at all. A man who is running on his foreign policy experience alone!
Hagee who praised Hitler on his strategy for annihilating (sp) millions of Jews for no other reason than pure evil yet none of this is reported anywhere other than in a passing moment.
Yet comments made by Senator Obama’s spiritual adviser who gave sermons on social and political affairs that made sense to the most average mind were reported in every newscast cable and network for a week in 2 minute soundbites and still appears in reference to all areas of the campaign and is even shown in reference to stories outside of the election.
Caged Lion
Politicians have still not adjusted to the modern era of politics, where conceivably any incident in camera sight over past decades can be called up with a google search and a mouse click.
People are still as attention-span challenged as ever, but the internet, hard drive and search engine tare empower the electorate with an elephant’s memory, for good or ill.
I think, even 4 years ago, Hill may have slid by with her blatant lie. But her advisers failed to account for the You-tube factor. So did Obama’s team with rev. wright.
However, this sword can be pointed in two directions. What unseemly crap did McCain do that he has forgotten and believes to be long buried? And the one I am waiting for is video of Rush Limpbaugh in the Dominican Republic hawking on the sistas.
MacDaddy
Yes, she’s a liar who, as Gov. Bill Richardson suggested over the weekend, feels she’s entitled to be the president. But she can’t catch up with Obama in pledged delegates or popular votes.
Two questions: why don’t influential democrats like Ted Kennedy, John Dean, Nancy Pelosi come out and say it’s time for this so-called primary to end?
Is Bill Richardson the only one with the guts to face up to Bill and Hillary?
Why do they have to feel beholden to Bill or Hillary, when they’ve only been for themselves? That’s why dems lost congress and the senate, when Bill was president. That’s why we got NAFTA, an agreement Bill gave to his friends so they could pour in money to his candidacy.
If this primary lasts a month longer, the Clintons will have done so much damage that Obama will not be able to win the general and an old, senile warmonger will be our president for the next four years. And he’ll start a war with Iran and we’ll never get healthcare, not even for children.
Anonymous
I guess Hillary wasn’t so “vetted” after all. I agree that if Hillary ever got the general election the Republicans would chop her up and eat her for breakfast. They have a ton of opposition material just waiting to go. And that’s before her tax returns are made public, along with other little “surprises.”
It shouldn’t surprise us by now that the Clintons lie; in fact, we should expect it.
The superdelegates need to grow a spine and shut this thing down.
We know that the Rush Limbaugh voters are having an effect and rendered the results of TX and OH as illegitimate. Without Limbaugh Obama wins TX in the popular vote and this thing is over.
Did you know that Limbaugh is selling “Operation Chaos” merchandise on his website?
Even Limbaugh can see that Hillary is bringing the Democratic party down and is helping her along.
The supers need to overcome their fear of the Clintons and let them know that the party is above them, not the other way around.
Ms.Martin
I expected embelishments and exaggerations, but not outright lies – not from her – maybe Bill, he’s comfortable with that.
Will women now understand how she has played them – played the wounded and the hero and it turns out she was neither.
She worked on the spin and damage control during the scandal that most women pained for her over, and now, she has lied to them again about how she was really working and involved during the Whitehouse years.
Just as she did years ago when we thought she was hurting she was really just working to keep her place on the Washington scene and now that she can see the possible loss, she is wrought by her own desire to win and that has led her to dilusions of grandeur.
Nothing at all would have been better than a discoverable untruth.
Most of the country assumed she was involved behind-the-scenes and she probably would have been thought better of had she just left us to our assumptions and not campaigned on something that was not.
This makes her worse than a politician; more like the habitual liars that tell stories to hear themselves speak and to be glorified in their own dilusional minds. Pathetic – really sad.
I haven’t respected her or thought much of her since South Carolina, but I had no idea she would tell a made up story (or fairy tale – the irony) that could be proven untrue.
Is she so far gone, or did she think Senator Obama would be so far gone from the race by the time we found her out?
Or, did Hillary just think she was smarter than all of us and she could continue on at any cost?
justice58
Hillary: “”I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”
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Woooo–That bold-faced lying witch! I tell you this woman is crazy! And I wanna see if Joe Scarborough is going to mention this crap.
Tick Tock, Tick Tock
Craig Hickman
truthseeker said…

As feared, Lou Dobbs is talking about Kwame and shows a clip of him saying he’s been called a “nigger” etc, followed by a piece on Otis Moss, Trinity’s new pastor. Otis is saying something about being “lynched”. Then they talk about Obama.
::
No fear, truth. Let them. There will be a backlash. And it will help Obama in ways you haven’t even imagined, I bet.
Just watch.
Anonymous
Lou Dobbs is someone who seems to always play on xenophobia and racism, as is Scarborough. Remember, their audience is limited and most will likely not back Obama or indeed, any Democrat in the general election.
CNN should be ashamed of itself; we should all arrange for an economic boycott for them having people like Dobbs and Glenn Beck. But they are the Clinton News Network and thus do not mind using these fools to advance Clinton.
But I do agree; there will be a backlash, but again, that has to start with all of us. We are the backlash that we’ve been waiting for. Let’s make it happen.
Craig Hickman
That’s what I mean anon @ 10:27:00 PM.
Watch how we vote henceforth.
You can’t attack a person who inspires people so in such irrational ways without unintended consequences.
You know what Obama’s biggest strength is? He doesn’t fear the wing nuts.
Well, neither ought we.
If he had feared them, he’d never have run. If we fear them, we’ll become hopeless and let up.
We cannot do that.
Have faith and press on. March off to war.
The victory that we’ve been waiting for is already ours.
We must make. It. Happen.
marc
even more compelling is a cbs video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4
clinton has made herself the laugh of any journalist that ever went to bosnia. and, man, that were quite a lot. and they came from all over the world, and they did share their experience. they share it now again, with anybody who wants to listen inside and outside of their media. hillary, the running joke.
she’s just lost so much credibility internationally that noone’s even gonna bother to call her anymore at 3 a.m.
as to my own experience, i was in bosnia at that time and all her claims are such bull that i just stared and listened in disbelief.
if her campaign now insits that it wasn’t an outright lie, then it’s even worse for clinton. in that case she’s gullible and naive and has a very twisted memory. and more than a lie, that makes her totally unfit for commander-in-chief.
great dilemma: either a liar or stupid and senile.
it’s over for her.
now watch the damage she’ll do to obama: scorched earth… well, at least that she’ll have learned from the bosnian war.
Craig Hickman
marc, I can’t stop laughing.
She’s certifiable.
“Memory should always match the videotape.”
If she survives this, I’ll lose all faith in this electorate.
How can anyone on the fence, if not a few supporters, think that this fraud is worthy of the highest office?
She’s certifiable.
And the CBS report is deadly.
rikyrah
They’ve been discussing this over a blog called The Field.
This guy is BRUTAL. Hilarious, but brutal.
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=937
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=934
He’s been asking for homemade anti-Hillpatine videos from his viewers.
Michelle
@Ms. Martin Mon Mar 24, 06:47:00 PM 2008: James Carlville has also gone crazy!
Well, you know, I don’t know much about that guy but I had a moment tonight when I thought: Is he trying to tell the truth really baldly out loud while pretending not to? In other words: with that outrageous Judas/loyalty thing, and his refusal to back down, he is to my ears saying something really extreme about the Clintons’ worldview and practice — I can’t quite get it into words but what I get from it viscerally is scary creepy control fanaticism with the name “loyalty” and bizarro psychological (and/or power and money based) dynamics of control and demands on others.
So I had this moment where I wondered, is this person trying to tell the truth under the guise of defending her? To be so outrageous in what he says … that he actually says what is going on by basically casting himself as the extreme, a sort of parody? Like I said I don’t know the guy at all but well, I just had this moment tonight where the surreal got a little too surreal for me to comprehend or something.
The whole thing, all the lies and weirdness and deceptions, is making my brain twist all around.
and, also @ Ms Martin, your comment Mon Mar 24, 09:26:00 PM 2008 had me nodding so hard I almost hurt my neck.
Ms.Martin
Michelle:
“dynamics of control and demands on others”
And now the loss of control for the inability to force demands upon others. Scary – very scary!
Ms.Martin
Now that the experience campaign has been exposed what will be the new campaign foundation?
She tried to latch onto the housing crisis but Obama peeped that a while ago and reacted and that was exposed in writing. He was all over it Hills.
If she’s not trying to latch onto something he’s already done, she’s either lying or trying to make him out to be something substantially less than what he really is.
TruthSeeker
@ Michelle
“So I had this moment where I wondered, is this person trying to tell the truth under the guise of defending her? To be so outrageous in what he says ..”
Re the “Judas” comment, it’s Obama who’s generally thought of as the Christ-like figure. I too did find the whole thing very surreal. I wondered for a moment whether Richardson might actually bet betraying Obama. It is thought that he would give Superdelegates the signal that it’s ok to go against the Clinton’s. But the fact Hillary won in his state yet he’s endorsing Obama might signal that Superdelegates can vote against their states. This was already pointed out by Lanny on CNN. Politics is a dirty business.
Ms.Martin
Truthseeker
I hope it’s not a signal that will be heard by the Supers; they still have the little problem of the leads that Obama holds and the threat of an implosion if they take the nominaion.
I don’t think this sniper fire business is helpin gher either.
Someone else on the Lanny davis panel mentioned that the if the Supers were considering the will of the people they would have to take into account the current math.
Angela
Please send this video to everyone you can and to any Pennsylvania friends and family!
rikyrah
Can this be called Swiftboating, if it’s the truth?
Swiftboating is lies and distortion.
But, the only one lying here is Hillpatine. Pointing this out isn’t swiftboating…it’s revealing what an untrustworthy liar she is.
And, they GOP doesn’t even have to spend money on a consultant for this commercial. An intern with good video skills can make this commercial for them because Hillpatine has already created it.
SquarePeg
What’s truly troubling is, if she would misspeak (lie) about something like this to increase or demonstrate her vast years of experience to try and influence voters minds, what won’t she say if she becomes president?
We have had eight years of a lying, cheating, immoral, evil, sociopath, do you really want more of the same.
God help us all.
TruthSeeker
The Clinton’s want McCain to Win!
Here’s a YouTube video where Chris Matthews talks about the treachery of the Clinton’s. This is something many people realized weeks ago…that in the event Hillary doesn’t manage to steal this nomination, the Clinton’s prefer McCain to win the general, thereby possibly clearing the way for Hillary in 2012.
Best case scenarios for the Clinton’s:
1. Hillary manages to get 2008 nomination, and wins the general.
2. Hillary gets the 2008 nomination and McCain wins the general.
3. If Obama prevails, McCain wins the general election due to damage done in primary to Obama. (Highly likely McCain will not do 2 terms, clearing way for Hillary in 2012.)
4. Obama gets nomination and wins general. He becomes the hero of the Democratic party and a party heavyweight, beloved by the people. Everyone forgets the legacy of the Clinton’s and remember the nasty, disloyal things they did..they become pariahs. They tear down Obama’s message of hope and upliftment. The Clinton’s do not care about what is best for America. THEY DO NOT WANT THIS OPTION! If this occurs they will work to undermine his Presidency!
Chris has been working this angle for a couple days and had a panel on where everyone agreed that the Clinton’s prefer McCain to win.
Nita
Anonymous at 8:49pm said…Did you know that Limbaugh is selling “Operation Chaos” merchandise on his website?
Me personally, I wouldn’t worry about that (except to continue to get the truth out). Rush is a businessman and a showman. Operation Chaos is an illusion. Delusion. A joke.
The problems in the Democratic party existed long before he jumped on the back of a bull who had already been stabbed. Hillary Clinton would not have stepped aside for Obama because it’s not in her nature to, apparently; Rush is taking financial advantage P. T. Barnum style.
Most Republicans crossed over for Obama, not Hillary, in Texas. Hillary’s lies about NAFTA and Obama — and northern Dixiecrats — helped her in Ohio, not Rush crossovers. We shouldn’t allow Rush to control the truth (thus giving him power he never had) in the same way we shouldn’t let Hillary control the truth.
As for the video, this ho owes Sinbad an apology. This is worse than the ‘helicopters were fired on by ungrateful niggas in new orleans’ lie.
TruthSeeker
..Another thing is why isn’t the Obama team pouncing on this Bosnia thing??
Hillary knows she has little chance of winning the general with her negatives on being untrustworthy. This Bosnia thing will make that worse. But, now I think the thing she wants more than winning is for Obama to lose! Obama cannot win, because he will forever change the face of politics in America making it impossible for people like her to survive. He will open a door where truly anyone can run for President not just people with a “pedigree”. If Obama wins, Americans will be empowered and never go back to the old way of doing things. Obama will challenge the “whiteness” of America.
Nita
@truthseeker and michelle,
Hillary is Christ. I believe it’s as simple as that. The Clintons are apparently as bad as Dubya is about ‘loyalty’.
They fuck you. You don’t fuck them.
Richardson betrayed the Clintons, in the Clintons’ and their True Believers’ heads. Two cabinet positions weren’t enough after all. How dare he. Well he can just keep his pitiful Hispanic votes, the Clintons don’t need his help anyway! /slam door in a huff.
It’s just like that one dude is on record as saying that BLACKS betrayed the Clintons, were disloyal and poor Hillary (yeah I know) can no longer trust those duplicitous negroes because they didn’t keep a promise. And off-topic, to anyone trying to scare people into voting for Clinton should she steal the nomination through the ‘supreme court’ boogeyman: an extended fuck you. As I stated before, I saw what happened to the Republicans who swallowed their misgivings for the sake of the party and the Supreme Court, and pulled the lever for Bush twice.
This woman does not represent the Democratic Party. A vote for her is a vote for the way she has run her campaign, not for the Democratic Party.
Nita
@truthseeker, i hope he doesn’t pounce. i hope he allows surrogates to do it.
Obama needs to focus on issues and McCain, not ‘gotcha’ games. In my opinion. Be respectfully dismissive.
Anonymous
“I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke.”
How do we know whe won’t “misspeak” at 3am?!?!?!?!
This isn’t the only time she “misspoke” about her experience when she knew full well it was documented! That woman stood in front of an audience and reflected back to a memory of entering into sniper fire. How could one forget or “misspeak” this. If it did not happen then, when did it happen? Surely it happened!!! I mean she recalled this experience in at leat 4 written, PREPARED speeches that had to be checked and re-checked. HOW DO YOU MISSPEAK IN A SPEECH!?
I’m sure whe will continue to be sleep deprived. It must be hard work keeping up with all of Bill’s affairs!
marc
wow! sleep deprived. thank you, anon 11:01. who would not be sleep deprived at 3 a.m. when she is already so during daytime.
didn’t reagan use to fall asleep during cabinet sessions?
didn’t bush lie about weapons of mass destruction?
didn’t bill clinton built a whole philosophy on the meaning of the word “is”?
hillary clinton is (is!) a faithful disciple of who she wants to see as her predecessors.
go away, hillary. just go away.
leave us alone.
Anonymous
We don’t need a Commander in Chief that doesn’t know the difference b/t sniper fire and a photo op with an 8 yr old!!!!!!!!
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