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	<title>Comments on: Donna Brazile: Wright Didn&#8217;t Abandon The Clintons Back In The Day So Lay Off</title>
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		<title>By: PA progressive</title>
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		<dc:creator>PA progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remove the copyrighted article reproduced in the comment thread from my blog The Pennsylvania Progressive.  This commenter did not have permission to steal my work.  Why would anyone have to visit my blog to read this if it&#039;s here in its entirety?  This stole traffic from my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remove the copyrighted article reproduced in the comment thread from my blog The Pennsylvania Progressive.  This commenter did not have permission to steal my work.  Why would anyone have to visit my blog to read this if it&#8217;s here in its entirety?  This stole traffic from my website.</p>
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		<title>By: Against Race Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against Race Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acanthus,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That is what was meant! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acanthus,</p>
<p>That is what was meant! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: acanthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>acanthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean &quot;more Republican&quot;, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean &#8220;more Republican&#8221;, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wright standing by Bill only demonstrates the willingness of the &#039;black community&#039; to curry favor within the party, no matter the circumstances, for their place in the party power structure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If blacks were more independent, it would be better for the country as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wright standing by Bill only demonstrates the willingness of the &#8216;black community&#8217; to curry favor within the party, no matter the circumstances, for their place in the party power structure.</p>
<p>If blacks were more independent, it would be better for the country as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Against Race Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against Race Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What makes it so ironic is that the Clinton&#039;s want everyone to be blindfully loyal to them (especially Blacks)! Look at Richardson. Has Clinton indicated that she does not agree with the James Carville remark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith,</p>
<p>What makes it so ironic is that the Clinton&#8217;s want everyone to be blindfully loyal to them (especially Blacks)! Look at Richardson. Has Clinton indicated that she does not agree with the James Carville remark?</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really had no idea of the intertwining and entrenching relationships these politicians have with people. I know it&#039;s partially due to my age and also the internet has really opened up access to information. So Dr. Wright supported Bill in his time of need. He could have come out publicly and denounced him. It really drives home how low the Clintons will go to secure the nomination and their complete lack of ethics. It really makes me sick. And I used to think they were &#039;nice&#039; people who were in a bad spot. As much as I support Obama&#039;s candidacy I will never again give my loyalty without question to another politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really had no idea of the intertwining and entrenching relationships these politicians have with people. I know it&#8217;s partially due to my age and also the internet has really opened up access to information. So Dr. Wright supported Bill in his time of need. He could have come out publicly and denounced him. It really drives home how low the Clintons will go to secure the nomination and their complete lack of ethics. It really makes me sick. And I used to think they were &#8216;nice&#8217; people who were in a bad spot. As much as I support Obama&#8217;s candidacy I will never again give my loyalty without question to another politician.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna Brazile is truly on point. She had a class on politics at the University of Maryland back in the 90&#039;s that was phenomenal. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But in reading this (and other) blogs and seeing Massa and Missus on tv, it just goes to show u where Black people stand in their midst. We are okay when it comes to votes or doing their bidding. But that&#039;s about it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope Black people won&#039;t fall for the okeydoke if they stupidly give Missus the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna Brazile is truly on point. She had a class on politics at the University of Maryland back in the 90&#8217;s that was phenomenal. </p>
<p>But in reading this (and other) blogs and seeing Massa and Missus on tv, it just goes to show u where Black people stand in their midst. We are okay when it comes to votes or doing their bidding. But that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>I hope Black people won&#8217;t fall for the okeydoke if they stupidly give Missus the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey you guys,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I e-mailed Donna Brazile to thank her for standing up for the black church and this is her response to me:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;I would be nothing.  Nothing without the Black church and those fiery preachers.  Although I am Catholic, the Black church was my spiritual home and center.  They also gave me a seat at the table.  Those Black preachers were my mentors and yes they did not make it easy, but they taught me to stand.&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;God bless you and may God continue to lift up the church and its people&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Donna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you guys,</p>
<p>I e-mailed Donna Brazile to thank her for standing up for the black church and this is her response to me:</p>
<p>&#8220;I would be nothing.  Nothing without the Black church and those fiery preachers.  Although I am Catholic, the Black church was my spiritual home and center.  They also gave me a seat at the table.  Those Black preachers were my mentors and yes they did not make it easy, but they taught me to stand.</p>
<p>God bless you and may God continue to lift up the church and its people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Donna</p>
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		<title>By: John Shreffler</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shreffler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the tip. I just emailed her and even asked her to talk to Gore as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, </p>
<p>Thanks for the tip. I just emailed her and even asked her to talk to Gore as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS Follows Up&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://craighickman.blogspot.com/2008/03/more-bosnia-misstatements.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More Bosnia Lies&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS Follows Up</p>
<p><a HREF="http://craighickman.blogspot.com/2008/03/more-bosnia-misstatements.html" REL="nofollow">More Bosnia Lies</a></p>
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		<title>By: Admiral Komack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admiral Komack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look who Hillary&#039;s new BFF is now:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/185608.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look who Hillary&#8217;s new BFF is now:</p>
<p><a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/185608.php" rel="nofollow">http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/185608.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this at The Pennsyvlania Progressive (pennsylvianiaprogressive.typepad.com).   A Bosnian vet has spoken out on Hillary&#039;s Bosnian lie.  Also, Americablog has disputed Clinton&#039;s claim she only &quot;misspoke&quot; about this once.   They have documented 4 different speeches (www.americablog.com).  So Hillary has now been caught again lying about the &quot;sniper fire.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;March 26, 2008&lt;br/&gt;Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A veteran of Bosnia who was at the event in Tuzla where Hillary Clinton falsely claimed to have landed under sniper fire is accusing the Senator of theft of valor.  As General Walter L. Stewart Jr. of the Pennsylvania National Guard said earlier today on a conference call, soldiers who actually have been in war zones and performed under fire deeply despise those who falsely claim such valor.  They feel this way because it attempts to cheapen or make less, their real and actual valor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The General pointed out &quot;this wasn&#039;t an emergency resupply mission to the Alamo.  If there had been any danger that mission wouldn&#039;t have landed.&quot;  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Common sense tells us the First Lady and Chelsea would never have been put in harms way by our military.  Hillary&#039;s tale of bravery and valor, because it was false, is finding resentment among those who actually did serve and Tammi K. (nee Jann) Hertherington who was at Tuzla when Senator Clinton landed is one.  Here is her story.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dear Sir,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I feel compelled to write to you in regards to Senator Clinton’s remarks regarding her visit to Bosnia.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I was present at the base in question when the First Lady visited and am intimately familiar with the situation on the ground at the time. It strikes me as beyond misstatement or clarity of memory for Senator Clinton to suggest that this visit in any way compares with the reality of those of us serving in theater experienced or presented a threat to her or her daughter. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;As a service person in the US Army, I was deployed to Bosnia immediately after the Peace Accord was signed and served there for eleven months in 1996. I was there at Tuzla Air base when the First Lady visited, and there was no sniper fire or anyone running under cover.  I saw both the First Lady and her daughter in our headquarters building (we called it the &#039;White House&#039;). When I saw them in the lobby of our Headquarters neither her or her daughter had on the &quot;Flak&quot; vests which even we were required to wear at all times when not inside a building. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;It was my fortune to be working in the Headquarter building as a Communications Specialist, and while I did go out to the ZOS (Zone of Separation) once and lived under &quot;Full battle rattle&quot; rules, I would never in any way compare my experience with those who daily risked their lives. That was the M.P.&#039;s who went on daily missions trying to round up weapons and militant individuals who opposed the Peace Accord and the contract workers who aided the Multi-National forces in trying to rebuild the infrastructure (bridges, communication, water) that had been blown up. If, as I believe, it is improper for me to compare my involvement with those who took the bulk of the real risks it is even more improper for any visiting dignitary to compare their own for any reason, let alone for personal gain.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I am quite angry that what I and my fellow soldiers worked to achieve should be used as a playing card to build up a political nominee and tear down another.  This is not what those of us who actually risked our lives were working for, we were trying to maintain a Peace Keeping mission in a country that had  been ravaged by ethnic cleansing.  To trivialize the atrocities suffered by the real people I met in that country for political gain is beyond my ability to comprehend.  I met mothers who had lost their children and children who had lost their parents. The sheer leap of credibility that the First Lady would have brought her daughter into an active war zone is an insult to the people there who suffered more than real risk, they suffered real loss.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I did have contact with some of the general population on a daily basis. Many came to work for the Military in custodial capacities. Many carried all that they possessed in plastic bags every day. They brought their own food and cooked daily on little burner plates. I was constantly amazed at how upbeat and optimistic some of the people were in spite of things. It still is hard for me to think of Srebenica and all of the women who lost husbands, sons, and fathers because of religion and nationalistic fervor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;My father still works as a Civil Servant at WOMAK on Ft. Bragg, NC and a couple of years ago he met a Bosnian woman and her daughter, who had lived through the worst of it. They got to talking and found out that I had been over there and told him to tell me &#039;thank you&#039; for what we had done. It still humbles me and chokes me up a little to know that even after all of these years there is appreciation for our past efforts. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I was simply a soldier doing my job in Bosnia and I believe in what we accomplished there.  I do not either want to make of my service more than it was nor to denigrate those who served with me and those who lived through more than any of us.  It seems to me that if I simply stand by while others “spin” their involvement for their own personal or political ambitions that I would be contributing to the slander of my fellows in arms and the people we were working to help in Bosnia, so I offer you my personal experience of the reality of the situation.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;To verify my story I have included a copy of an commendation I received for service in the Bosnian theater during that period. It would be my honor to provide you more of my perspective if it would serve to deliver the truth to the American people.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;Best Regards,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tammi K  Hetherington (nee Jann)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(formerly)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;SPC&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;141 Signal Battalion, 22nd Signal Brigade, 1st Armored Division, US Army&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Task Force Eagle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this at The Pennsyvlania Progressive (pennsylvianiaprogressive.typepad.com).   A Bosnian vet has spoken out on Hillary&#8217;s Bosnian lie.  Also, Americablog has disputed Clinton&#8217;s claim she only &#8220;misspoke&#8221; about this once.   They have documented 4 different speeches (www.americablog.com).  So Hillary has now been caught again lying about the &#8220;sniper fire.&#8221;</p>
<p>March 26, 2008<br />Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft</p>
<p>A veteran of Bosnia who was at the event in Tuzla where Hillary Clinton falsely claimed to have landed under sniper fire is accusing the Senator of theft of valor.  As General Walter L. Stewart Jr. of the Pennsylvania National Guard said earlier today on a conference call, soldiers who actually have been in war zones and performed under fire deeply despise those who falsely claim such valor.  They feel this way because it attempts to cheapen or make less, their real and actual valor.</p>
<p>The General pointed out &#8220;this wasn&#8217;t an emergency resupply mission to the Alamo.  If there had been any danger that mission wouldn&#8217;t have landed.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Common sense tells us the First Lady and Chelsea would never have been put in harms way by our military.  Hillary&#8217;s tale of bravery and valor, because it was false, is finding resentment among those who actually did serve and Tammi K. (nee Jann) Hertherington who was at Tuzla when Senator Clinton landed is one.  Here is her story.</p>
<p>Dear Sir,</p>
<p>I feel compelled to write to you in regards to Senator Clinton’s remarks regarding her visit to Bosnia.</p>
<p>I was present at the base in question when the First Lady visited and am intimately familiar with the situation on the ground at the time. It strikes me as beyond misstatement or clarity of memory for Senator Clinton to suggest that this visit in any way compares with the reality of those of us serving in theater experienced or presented a threat to her or her daughter. </p>
<p>As a service person in the US Army, I was deployed to Bosnia immediately after the Peace Accord was signed and served there for eleven months in 1996. I was there at Tuzla Air base when the First Lady visited, and there was no sniper fire or anyone running under cover.  I saw both the First Lady and her daughter in our headquarters building (we called it the &#8216;White House&#8217;). When I saw them in the lobby of our Headquarters neither her or her daughter had on the &#8220;Flak&#8221; vests which even we were required to wear at all times when not inside a building. </p>
<p>It was my fortune to be working in the Headquarter building as a Communications Specialist, and while I did go out to the ZOS (Zone of Separation) once and lived under &#8220;Full battle rattle&#8221; rules, I would never in any way compare my experience with those who daily risked their lives. That was the M.P.&#8217;s who went on daily missions trying to round up weapons and militant individuals who opposed the Peace Accord and the contract workers who aided the Multi-National forces in trying to rebuild the infrastructure (bridges, communication, water) that had been blown up. If, as I believe, it is improper for me to compare my involvement with those who took the bulk of the real risks it is even more improper for any visiting dignitary to compare their own for any reason, let alone for personal gain.</p>
<p>I am quite angry that what I and my fellow soldiers worked to achieve should be used as a playing card to build up a political nominee and tear down another.  This is not what those of us who actually risked our lives were working for, we were trying to maintain a Peace Keeping mission in a country that had  been ravaged by ethnic cleansing.  To trivialize the atrocities suffered by the real people I met in that country for political gain is beyond my ability to comprehend.  I met mothers who had lost their children and children who had lost their parents. The sheer leap of credibility that the First Lady would have brought her daughter into an active war zone is an insult to the people there who suffered more than real risk, they suffered real loss.</p>
<p>I did have contact with some of the general population on a daily basis. Many came to work for the Military in custodial capacities. Many carried all that they possessed in plastic bags every day. They brought their own food and cooked daily on little burner plates. I was constantly amazed at how upbeat and optimistic some of the people were in spite of things. It still is hard for me to think of Srebenica and all of the women who lost husbands, sons, and fathers because of religion and nationalistic fervor.</p>
<p>My father still works as a Civil Servant at WOMAK on Ft. Bragg, NC and a couple of years ago he met a Bosnian woman and her daughter, who had lived through the worst of it. They got to talking and found out that I had been over there and told him to tell me &#8216;thank you&#8217; for what we had done. It still humbles me and chokes me up a little to know that even after all of these years there is appreciation for our past efforts. </p>
<p>I was simply a soldier doing my job in Bosnia and I believe in what we accomplished there.  I do not either want to make of my service more than it was nor to denigrate those who served with me and those who lived through more than any of us.  It seems to me that if I simply stand by while others “spin” their involvement for their own personal or political ambitions that I would be contributing to the slander of my fellows in arms and the people we were working to help in Bosnia, so I offer you my personal experience of the reality of the situation.  </p>
<p>To verify my story I have included a copy of an commendation I received for service in the Bosnian theater during that period. It would be my honor to provide you more of my perspective if it would serve to deliver the truth to the American people.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Tammi K  Hetherington (nee Jann)</p>
<p>(formerly)</p>
<p>SPC</p>
<p>141 Signal Battalion, 22nd Signal Brigade, 1st Armored Division, US Army</p>
<p>Task Force Eagle</p>
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