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	<title>Comments on: Bill Clinton Says There are TWO Patriots in this Race&#8230;and guess who&#8217;s NOT included?</title>
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		<title>By: Mrs. M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massa Bill has REPEATEDLY come out the closet with his sheets. Depending on the issue, they can be white, they can be red. Nevertheless they still have holes in them for his eyes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hillary can kissamy for real...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massa Bill has REPEATEDLY come out the closet with his sheets. Depending on the issue, they can be white, they can be red. Nevertheless they still have holes in them for his eyes.</p>
<p>Hillary can kissamy for real&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;WOLF!&#039;</description>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many forces at play here trying to stop Obama&#039;s run cold. There would be a massive shake-up in the Dem Party and in the way the Rethugs run elections. If people started thinking critically and coming together the country could move in a better direction though one less open to the whims of the ones trying to control things now. I was viewing other sites and some people actually think HRC made a mistake and has unintentionally embellished her national security related contributions i.e. claiming to be under fire in Bosnia and peace negotiations in Ireland. She has been lying the entire time! Come on! People fell for it or didn&#039;t research it; the main stream media has been protecting her and pushing her agenda and others STILL want to give her the benefit of the doubt. So I&#039;m not surprised people are slow to get it or seem confused. Most people are sheep. If you tell them the sky is purple when it&#039;s blue long enough they&#039;ll start to question. The love of power like the love of money is all consuming. Isn&#039;t it ironic how the Clintons have become the same type of politicians they were trying to be in contrast to after all these years? All that &#039;experience&#039; means NOTHING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many forces at play here trying to stop Obama&#8217;s run cold. There would be a massive shake-up in the Dem Party and in the way the Rethugs run elections. If people started thinking critically and coming together the country could move in a better direction though one less open to the whims of the ones trying to control things now. I was viewing other sites and some people actually think HRC made a mistake and has unintentionally embellished her national security related contributions i.e. claiming to be under fire in Bosnia and peace negotiations in Ireland. She has been lying the entire time! Come on! People fell for it or didn&#8217;t research it; the main stream media has been protecting her and pushing her agenda and others STILL want to give her the benefit of the doubt. So I&#8217;m not surprised people are slow to get it or seem confused. Most people are sheep. If you tell them the sky is purple when it&#8217;s blue long enough they&#8217;ll start to question. The love of power like the love of money is all consuming. Isn&#8217;t it ironic how the Clintons have become the same type of politicians they were trying to be in contrast to after all these years? All that &#8216;experience&#8217; means NOTHING!</p>
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		<title>By: Nita is Tired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nita is Tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah said... &lt;i&gt;I&#039;m serious about this mess, folks. She plays that White Woman Victim card in a NANOSECOND.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;she plays it so often, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s strategy; I think it&#039;s an integral part of who she is. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;you know all those women who grew up pretending to be stupid because they were told that&#039;s the way to catch a man?  and all those women who grew up using sex to get what they want, because they were told that&#039;s the way to get what one wants from a man (like that 14 year old mormon chick who claimed to be raped by her cousin, and then admitted in court she led him on and used sex on him willingly but claimed she did it all because she was afraid)?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;and all those white women who were told to act a certain way around black men (for an example of the game Hillary Clinton is ultimately playing, check out the last 5 minutes of this &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wi27Rib60&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Judge Judy&lt;/a&gt; clip of a spoiled Jewish chick whose lawyer father is trying to scam a young brother out of the car repair his daughter caused need of)......... just as black women were told to act a certain way around white men.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She&#039;s not the only one who plays her game (see all the bitches who have bought her lines hook line and seeker -- wonder why?), but I believe this is the biggest time -- ever -- in this nation&#039;s history when that tactic is not going to ultimately work.  Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah said&#8230; <i>I&#8217;m serious about this mess, folks. She plays that White Woman Victim card in a NANOSECOND.</i></p>
<p>she plays it so often, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s strategy; I think it&#8217;s an integral part of who she is. </p>
<p>you know all those women who grew up pretending to be stupid because they were told that&#8217;s the way to catch a man?  and all those women who grew up using sex to get what they want, because they were told that&#8217;s the way to get what one wants from a man (like that 14 year old mormon chick who claimed to be raped by her cousin, and then admitted in court she led him on and used sex on him willingly but claimed she did it all because she was afraid)?</p>
<p>and all those white women who were told to act a certain way around black men (for an example of the game Hillary Clinton is ultimately playing, check out the last 5 minutes of this <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wi27Rib60" REL="nofollow">Judge Judy</a> clip of a spoiled Jewish chick whose lawyer father is trying to scam a young brother out of the car repair his daughter caused need of)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; just as black women were told to act a certain way around white men.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s not the only one who plays her game (see all the bitches who have bought her lines hook line and seeker &#8212; wonder why?), but I believe this is the biggest time &#8212; ever &#8212; in this nation&#8217;s history when that tactic is not going to ultimately work.  Good.</p>
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		<title>By: Nquest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Noonan is a liar.  On MTP she tried to use Obama&#039;s &quot;generational divide&quot; argument to banish Rev. Wright as a demagogue from a bygone era AND claimed Rev. Wright&#039;s congregation looked &quot;bored&quot; in the heavy rotation video snippets while he was &quot;doing his thing&quot; being outside of the &quot;mainstream&quot; - i.e. extreme.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What videos has she been watching?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And if we&#039;re going to measure things by perceived &quot;boredom&quot; due to the lack of expressiveness in a lot of White churches, I guess that&#039;s grounds for saying White people in those churches just aren&#039;t going along with all that Jesus stuff their preachers talk about.  Now that might explain quite a bit.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the insight, Peggy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy Noonan is a liar.  On MTP she tried to use Obama&#8217;s &#8220;generational divide&#8221; argument to banish Rev. Wright as a demagogue from a bygone era AND claimed Rev. Wright&#8217;s congregation looked &#8220;bored&#8221; in the heavy rotation video snippets while he was &#8220;doing his thing&#8221; being outside of the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; &#8211; i.e. extreme.</p>
<p>What videos has she been watching?</p>
<p>And if we&#8217;re going to measure things by perceived &#8220;boredom&#8221; due to the lack of expressiveness in a lot of White churches, I guess that&#8217;s grounds for saying White people in those churches just aren&#8217;t going along with all that Jesus stuff their preachers talk about.  Now that might explain quite a bit.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight, Peggy!!</p>
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		<title>By: justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all you guys,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;HAPPY EASTER! MUCH LOVE TO YA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all you guys,</p>
<p>HAPPY EASTER! MUCH LOVE TO YA!</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ rikyrah,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ok.  I hear what you&#039;re sayin&#039;.  It&#039;s probably too late to change strategies anyways.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Plus, I take comfort in the fact that Obama just regained the lead in the national gallup tracking poll.  He&#039;s only down 2% to McCain.  So yeah, this Wright controversy wasn&#039;t fatal.  He&#039;s doing just fine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s hope the American people continue to see past all the bs being flung at them from the Clintons and the Republicans.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama o8!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Alright.  About 7 minutes until the Sunday talk shows.  Let&#039;s see where the talking heads are on all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ rikyrah,</p>
<p>Ok.  I hear what you&#8217;re sayin&#8217;.  It&#8217;s probably too late to change strategies anyways.  </p>
<p>Plus, I take comfort in the fact that Obama just regained the lead in the national gallup tracking poll.  He&#8217;s only down 2% to McCain.  So yeah, this Wright controversy wasn&#8217;t fatal.  He&#8217;s doing just fine.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope the American people continue to see past all the bs being flung at them from the Clintons and the Republicans.</p>
<p>Obama o8!</p>
<p>Alright.  About 7 minutes until the Sunday talk shows.  Let&#8217;s see where the talking heads are on all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was typical and spiteful - one would assume that patriotism is a prerequisite to a candidacy for POTUS.&lt;br/&gt;-----------------------------------&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Say it, MS.Martin! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hate it when something has to be explained to grown people like they&#039;re 2 year olds! I hate that sh%t! Gaah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was typical and spiteful &#8211; one would assume that patriotism is a prerequisite to a candidacy for POTUS.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Say it, MS.Martin! </p>
<p>I hate it when something has to be explained to grown people like they&#8217;re 2 year olds! I hate that sh%t! Gaah!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shazza&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The only contrast was HRC and McCain against Obama.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The mere fact that he mentioned patriotism was to infer that Senator Obama was not patriotic.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It was typical and spiteful - one would assume that patriotism is a prerequisite to a candidacy for POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shazza</p>
<p>The only contrast was HRC and McCain against Obama.</p>
<p>The mere fact that he mentioned patriotism was to infer that Senator Obama was not patriotic.</p>
<p>It was typical and spiteful &#8211; one would assume that patriotism is a prerequisite to a candidacy for POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Shazza Nakim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shazza Nakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I missed something? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I heard the lecture that Bill Clinton made and I didn&#039;t hear, sense or register anything about Barak Obama being a non-Patriot?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What I heard was his (campaign) version of the Compare and Contrast of McCain vs. Clinton which what I figured he was suppose to do as spouse support for his &quot;wife&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed something? </p>
<p>I heard the lecture that Bill Clinton made and I didn&#8217;t hear, sense or register anything about Barak Obama being a non-Patriot?</p>
<p>What I heard was his (campaign) version of the Compare and Contrast of McCain vs. Clinton which what I figured he was suppose to do as spouse support for his &#8220;wife&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What rikyrah said.</description>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Rikyrah...that&#039;s the bottom line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Rikyrah&#8230;that&#8217;s the bottom line!</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear y&#039;all about Obama striking, but come on now. I&#039;ll keep on reminding you -he&#039;s a BLACK MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He can&#039;t be seen as&lt;br/&gt;1. Arrogant&lt;br/&gt;2. Bullying&lt;br/&gt;3. Being the Big Black Brute to her White Woman Victim&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m serious about this mess, folks. She plays that White Woman Victim card in a NANOSECOND. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A NANOSECOND. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The only folks in the Media that I remotely believe actually want to give Obama a break are Johnathan Alter, Chuck Todd (numbers are neutral), Wolffe from Newsweek,Olbermann and Tweety. The rest of them are Clinton shills, and Obama simply can&#039;t give them any ammo. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know it&#039;s frustrating; it&#039;s frustrating to me too. We ALL know the game; if Obama was trailing in pledged delegates, popular vote and contests lost, and had one only 3 of the last 17 states, his ass would have been laughed off the stage. Florida and Michigan? It would be the standard &lt;b&gt;We have to FOLLOW THE RULES...FOLLOW THE RULES&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We know this. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;IFFF Obama had LIED ABOUT THE MONEY HE COLLECTED....it would be on the front page...we know this. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He&#039;s always been running TWO campaigns...with nobody acknowledgeing that it&#039;s even happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear y&#8217;all about Obama striking, but come on now. I&#8217;ll keep on reminding you -he&#8217;s a BLACK MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. </p>
<p>He can&#8217;t be seen as<br />1. Arrogant<br />2. Bullying<br />3. Being the Big Black Brute to her White Woman Victim</p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious about this mess, folks. She plays that White Woman Victim card in a NANOSECOND. </p>
<p>A NANOSECOND. </p>
<p>The only folks in the Media that I remotely believe actually want to give Obama a break are Johnathan Alter, Chuck Todd (numbers are neutral), Wolffe from Newsweek,Olbermann and Tweety. The rest of them are Clinton shills, and Obama simply can&#8217;t give them any ammo. </p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s frustrating; it&#8217;s frustrating to me too. We ALL know the game; if Obama was trailing in pledged delegates, popular vote and contests lost, and had one only 3 of the last 17 states, his ass would have been laughed off the stage. Florida and Michigan? It would be the standard <b>We have to FOLLOW THE RULES&#8230;FOLLOW THE RULES</b> </p>
<p>We know this. </p>
<p>IFFF Obama had LIED ABOUT THE MONEY HE COLLECTED&#8230;.it would be on the front page&#8230;we know this. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s always been running TWO campaigns&#8230;with nobody acknowledgeing that it&#8217;s even happening.</p>
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		<title>By: The Christian Progressive Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Christian Progressive Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beginning to think the Big Dog&#039;s off his meds, and if they have him on any, his doctor needs to make adjustments so he&#039;ll stop putting his foot in his mouth...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If Hillpatine goes down in flames, how long do you think it will be before we hear of the first Presidential couple heading for divorce court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think the Big Dog&#8217;s off his meds, and if they have him on any, his doctor needs to make adjustments so he&#8217;ll stop putting his foot in his mouth&#8230;</p>
<p>If Hillpatine goes down in flames, how long do you think it will be before we hear of the first Presidential couple heading for divorce court?</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  Believe it or not, I&#039;m still very confident that Obama will win this.  But I see a few openings.  And I&#039;d prefer it if those openings were closed ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  Believe it or not, I&#8217;m still very confident that Obama will win this.  But I see a few openings.  And I&#8217;d prefer it if those openings were closed ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ tiye,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s part of the problem.  Someone&#039;s gotta say it.  Who&#039;s going to step up?  Why are people so afraid of the Clintons?  Why are they so special?  Obama&#039;s camp should be doing everything in its power to end this YESTERDAY.  He&#039;ll need as much time as possible to reunite the Party after the job Hillary&#039;s done on it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hillary seems to be positioning herself for a big win in PA.  I don&#039;t know how this Wright situation plays out in places like NC and Indiana.  She could get the momentum back only to fall short when all is said and done.  That&#039;s a dangerous possibility for the Democrats. . . a candidate (Hillary) with a &quot;moral&quot; reason to continue, but no objective argument to win.  That&#039;s what she&#039;s shooting for.  The more confusing this gets, the better her chances.  She&#039;ll hang on to that &quot;moral&quot; victory for all it&#039;s worth.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It ensures a divided party all the way to August.  It increases the chances that the super delegates won&#039;t feel as bad reversing the primary elections/caucuses.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People are already hinting that a big win in PA for Hillary would give her added pressure to force do-overs in FL and MI.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let me make it clear.  I support Obama.  But, this is a game of chess.  Obama&#039;s proven that he&#039;s good at it.  But, lately, it feels like he&#039;s coasting a little bit.  He&#039;s in constant reactionary mode.  She&#039;s setting the terms of the conversation.  And Obama&#039;s relying far too much on the concepts of &quot;fairness,&quot; and &quot;logic.&quot;  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s the problem . . . the Democratic leadership is too spineless to enforce fair play (just look at Howard Dean and this FL/MI mess); and Hillary threw logic out the window a long time ago.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Throw in the fact that Hillary doesn&#039;t care about the rules or the Party and you&#039;ve got a MAJOR problem on your hands.  And let&#039;s not forget the Rush Limbaugh factor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s an asian saying that goes, &quot;the time to strike is when the opportunity presents itself.&quot;  Obama has another oppotunity to change the direction of this race.  The media is waking up to the fact that the MATH is BAD for Hillary.  But someone&#039;s gotta close the deal.  Someone should be setting benchmarks for Hillary (e.g., &quot;if she doesn&#039;t get X % of the delegates by May 6, she must drop out).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama needs to expect the unexpected - Hillary is setting the table quite effectively.  Obama needs to reclaim that, &quot;fierce urgency of now.&quot;  The fact that she&#039;s still in this thing is a testament to short-sightedness and weakness on someone&#039;s part.  Is it Obama?  Is it the media?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t know who, but the longer this thing goes, the greater chance Obama and his supporters have at getting screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ tiye,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s part of the problem.  Someone&#8217;s gotta say it.  Who&#8217;s going to step up?  Why are people so afraid of the Clintons?  Why are they so special?  Obama&#8217;s camp should be doing everything in its power to end this YESTERDAY.  He&#8217;ll need as much time as possible to reunite the Party after the job Hillary&#8217;s done on it.</p>
<p>Hillary seems to be positioning herself for a big win in PA.  I don&#8217;t know how this Wright situation plays out in places like NC and Indiana.  She could get the momentum back only to fall short when all is said and done.  That&#8217;s a dangerous possibility for the Democrats. . . a candidate (Hillary) with a &#8220;moral&#8221; reason to continue, but no objective argument to win.  That&#8217;s what she&#8217;s shooting for.  The more confusing this gets, the better her chances.  She&#8217;ll hang on to that &#8220;moral&#8221; victory for all it&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>It ensures a divided party all the way to August.  It increases the chances that the super delegates won&#8217;t feel as bad reversing the primary elections/caucuses.  </p>
<p>People are already hinting that a big win in PA for Hillary would give her added pressure to force do-overs in FL and MI.  </p>
<p>Let me make it clear.  I support Obama.  But, this is a game of chess.  Obama&#8217;s proven that he&#8217;s good at it.  But, lately, it feels like he&#8217;s coasting a little bit.  He&#8217;s in constant reactionary mode.  She&#8217;s setting the terms of the conversation.  And Obama&#8217;s relying far too much on the concepts of &#8220;fairness,&#8221; and &#8220;logic.&#8221;  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem . . . the Democratic leadership is too spineless to enforce fair play (just look at Howard Dean and this FL/MI mess); and Hillary threw logic out the window a long time ago.</p>
<p>Throw in the fact that Hillary doesn&#8217;t care about the rules or the Party and you&#8217;ve got a MAJOR problem on your hands.  And let&#8217;s not forget the Rush Limbaugh factor.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an asian saying that goes, &#8220;the time to strike is when the opportunity presents itself.&#8221;  Obama has another oppotunity to change the direction of this race.  The media is waking up to the fact that the MATH is BAD for Hillary.  But someone&#8217;s gotta close the deal.  Someone should be setting benchmarks for Hillary (e.g., &#8220;if she doesn&#8217;t get X % of the delegates by May 6, she must drop out).</p>
<p>Obama needs to expect the unexpected &#8211; Hillary is setting the table quite effectively.  Obama needs to reclaim that, &#8220;fierce urgency of now.&#8221;  The fact that she&#8217;s still in this thing is a testament to short-sightedness and weakness on someone&#8217;s part.  Is it Obama?  Is it the media?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who, but the longer this thing goes, the greater chance Obama and his supporters have at getting screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, there is no way in Hades that Obama can demand/ask Hillary to step down. Can you imagine the victim card she&#039;d pull? Gloria Steinem and the Feminist Mafia would be writing op-eds twice a day, every day about how Obama is bullying a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, there is no way in Hades that Obama can demand/ask Hillary to step down. Can you imagine the victim card she&#8217;d pull? Gloria Steinem and the Feminist Mafia would be writing op-eds twice a day, every day about how Obama is bullying a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe in OK wrote:&lt;br/&gt;(i would think Judas rather significant.&lt;br/&gt;Judas betrayed the Savior.&lt;br/&gt;Hillary is certainly no Savior.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yep! And here&#039;s a perferct response to James Carville:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Surrogate or Obama: Are you equating Hillary with the Savior? Well, I know the Savior and she, sir, is no Savior!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe in OK wrote:<br />(i would think Judas rather significant.<br />Judas betrayed the Savior.<br />Hillary is certainly no Savior.)</p>
<p>Yep! And here&#8217;s a perferct response to James Carville:</p>
<p>Surrogate or Obama: Are you equating Hillary with the Savior? Well, I know the Savior and she, sir, is no Savior!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He really has turned himself into the WC Fields of politics, both in looks and insipid remarks. He and his wife are two of the lowest with all this trash racially tinged talk, and, thank goodness his reputation is already so tarnished by the way that he disgraced the WH, that no one really cares, and, too bad she still can&#039;t control him or his mouth. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Two divisive, manipulative, scheming politicians who will do or say whatever they want to get this win, just one hot mess they have gotten themselves into and without a shred of integrity or dignity. And, when its time for the so called junior senator from NY to run, hopefully, all this will come right on back and get her booted out of that gig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He really has turned himself into the WC Fields of politics, both in looks and insipid remarks. He and his wife are two of the lowest with all this trash racially tinged talk, and, thank goodness his reputation is already so tarnished by the way that he disgraced the WH, that no one really cares, and, too bad she still can&#8217;t control him or his mouth. </p>
<p>Two divisive, manipulative, scheming politicians who will do or say whatever they want to get this win, just one hot mess they have gotten themselves into and without a shred of integrity or dignity. And, when its time for the so called junior senator from NY to run, hopefully, all this will come right on back and get her booted out of that gig.</p>
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		<title>By: joe in oklahoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe in oklahoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b-serious,  it shouldn&#039;t have to be Obama asking her to drop out.  it should be the democratic &quot;leadership&quot; (you can see i use that term cautiously)&lt;br/&gt;Just imagine if things were reversed: if Clinton had won over a dozen primaries in a row, was ahead in the delegate count, ahead in the popular vote, and way ahead in the number of states won. &lt;br/&gt;I suspect there would be tremendous pressure on Obama to pull out. &lt;br/&gt;i further suspect Clinton would regard a decision by Obama to stay in the race as underhanded chicanery. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;and yet what do we see in the current situation? &lt;br/&gt;Clinton in the exact same situation carries on, with a minimal chance of victory,and actually had the ovaries to offer Obama a veep slot. &lt;br/&gt;everything she does now is intended to destroy his standing vs McCain.&lt;br/&gt;she and Bill even speak more favorably of the Republican than they do of their Dem opponent.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;the democratic party &quot;leadership&quot;, which would be telling Obama to drop out if the situation was reversed, is cowed into silence, and when one superdelegate speaks out (Richardson) is he labeled a Judas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b-serious,  it shouldn&#8217;t have to be Obama asking her to drop out.  it should be the democratic &#8220;leadership&#8221; (you can see i use that term cautiously)<br />Just imagine if things were reversed: if Clinton had won over a dozen primaries in a row, was ahead in the delegate count, ahead in the popular vote, and way ahead in the number of states won. <br />I suspect there would be tremendous pressure on Obama to pull out. <br />i further suspect Clinton would regard a decision by Obama to stay in the race as underhanded chicanery. </p>
<p>and yet what do we see in the current situation? <br />Clinton in the exact same situation carries on, with a minimal chance of victory,and actually had the ovaries to offer Obama a veep slot. <br />everything she does now is intended to destroy his standing vs McCain.<br />she and Bill even speak more favorably of the Republican than they do of their Dem opponent.</p>
<p>the democratic party &#8220;leadership&#8221;, which would be telling Obama to drop out if the situation was reversed, is cowed into silence, and when one superdelegate speaks out (Richardson) is he labeled a Judas.</p>
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