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	<title>Comments on: Obama on Cover of Ebony- In Our Lifetime</title>
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		<title>By: ScottSp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottSp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a white guy who has voted republican all my life. Even though I am pro-life and am certain that from a policy perspective that I disagree with Barack Obama, I weep with joy at the prospect of him being our next president. I am so tired of the division and the hate and the culture wars. Maybe we are seeing the real death of xenophobia and racism in our country. I think I am going to buy that Ebony issue, which is hilarious when you think abot it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW. There is no way in hell I would EVER vote for Hillary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Go Obama!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a white guy who has voted republican all my life. Even though I am pro-life and am certain that from a policy perspective that I disagree with Barack Obama, I weep with joy at the prospect of him being our next president. I am so tired of the division and the hate and the culture wars. Maybe we are seeing the real death of xenophobia and racism in our country. I think I am going to buy that Ebony issue, which is hilarious when you think abot it.</p>
<p>BTW. There is no way in hell I would EVER vote for Hillary.</p>
<p>Go Obama!!</p>
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		<title>By: kaspian</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaspian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully written piece, rikyrah. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I felt a lot like Skeptical Brotha, too: &quot;My inner strategist couldn&#039;t even envision a scenario where Obama could even overtake Hillary.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess, as Barack says, &quot;That&#039;s what hope is.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s absolutely mind-boggling what we&#039;re seeing now. This man -- and the movement that&#039;s growing up around him -- is taking down one of the most formidable political machines ever seen. It&#039;s happening block by block, county by county. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;In our lifetime&lt;/b&gt;, to me, doesn&#039;t just mean the first black president. It means a whole new day in America and, inevitably, in the world. Everybody is part of that. And Barack seem to have understood it all along -- back when his early supporters like me were close to despair because he was just going along step by step with this calm, dignified, almost serene campaign, instead of running around attacking his opponents and that kind of stuff. He&#039;s revolutionary, but in a non-scary way -- and way that (as somebodey wrote) makes you wish your grandmother were here to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully written piece, rikyrah. </p>
<p>I felt a lot like Skeptical Brotha, too: &#8220;My inner strategist couldn&#8217;t even envision a scenario where Obama could even overtake Hillary.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess, as Barack says, &#8220;That&#8217;s what hope is.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely mind-boggling what we&#8217;re seeing now. This man &#8212; and the movement that&#8217;s growing up around him &#8212; is taking down one of the most formidable political machines ever seen. It&#8217;s happening block by block, county by county. </p>
<p><b>In our lifetime</b>, to me, doesn&#8217;t just mean the first black president. It means a whole new day in America and, inevitably, in the world. Everybody is part of that. And Barack seem to have understood it all along &#8212; back when his early supporters like me were close to despair because he was just going along step by step with this calm, dignified, almost serene campaign, instead of running around attacking his opponents and that kind of stuff. He&#8217;s revolutionary, but in a non-scary way &#8212; and way that (as somebodey wrote) makes you wish your grandmother were here to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The report out of the Nebraska caucus about some woman carrying about Obama being a Muslim and terrorism and the other caucus goers standing up to her:  &quot;No More Hate.&quot;  Wish those folks could address Pat Buchanan&#039;s snide sneers.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hillary Clinton is no feminist.  It seems to be off the table to comment on the nepotism and patriarchy implicit in her campaign and the simple fact that she&#039;s lived a life of extreme privilege for the past 35 years, a life of domestic servants and luxury.  It used to be standard to ask candidates the price of a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.  I wonder what happened to that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report out of the Nebraska caucus about some woman carrying about Obama being a Muslim and terrorism and the other caucus goers standing up to her:  &#8220;No More Hate.&#8221;  Wish those folks could address Pat Buchanan&#8217;s snide sneers.  </p>
<p>Hillary Clinton is no feminist.  It seems to be off the table to comment on the nepotism and patriarchy implicit in her campaign and the simple fact that she&#8217;s lived a life of extreme privilege for the past 35 years, a life of domestic servants and luxury.  It used to be standard to ask candidates the price of a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.  I wonder what happened to that question.</p>
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		<title>By: Fnarf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fnarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing Obama sworn in as President would make me so proud to be an American in so many ways, ways that I&#039;m SUPPOSED to be proud already but am not -- certainly not after the past seven years. Finally the rhetoric becomes true. People all over the world are going to FREAK OUT, in a good way!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nice post here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing Obama sworn in as President would make me so proud to be an American in so many ways, ways that I&#8217;m SUPPOSED to be proud already but am not &#8212; certainly not after the past seven years. Finally the rhetoric becomes true. People all over the world are going to FREAK OUT, in a good way!</p>
<p>Nice post here.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptical brotha</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptical brotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In Our Lifetime indeed says so much. For the longest time I militantly refused to concede that his election was even plausible-much less likely. My inner strategist couldn&#039;t even envision a scenario where Obama could even overtake Hillary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But it is happening and now Hillary has turned to Maggie Williams, a black woman and her former chief of staff in the White House, to pull her off the shoals of electoral defeat.  How poetic is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah,</p>
<p>In Our Lifetime indeed says so much. For the longest time I militantly refused to concede that his election was even plausible-much less likely. My inner strategist couldn&#8217;t even envision a scenario where Obama could even overtake Hillary.</p>
<p>But it is happening and now Hillary has turned to Maggie Williams, a black woman and her former chief of staff in the White House, to pull her off the shoals of electoral defeat.  How poetic is that?</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m happy, but there needs to be more discussion about how whites came out for Obama before blacks embraced him -- and why.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m going to drop a little Jill Nelson on you. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/books/review/Nelson-t.html?_r=1&amp;ref=firstchapters&amp;pagewanted=all&amp;oref=slogin#&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From today&#039;s NYTimes:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;In the end, Steele’s portrayal of Barack Obama as a bound man is a result of his own failure of imagination, as is his tired assertion that blacks question Obama’s blackness. Black Americans’ slow embrace of Obama’s candidacy was strategic and pragmatic. We know Obama is black, and know he knows it, too. What we also know is that to embrace him too enthusiastically risks making whites uncomfortable with him and then we all lose. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;Obama is not about &#039;in our lifetime&#039;. He&#039;s not in this to be the first black president (unlike Hillary pulling gender out of her ass every two seconds).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is so true, and one of the most revolutionary things about him. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;He&#039;s in this to be president, period. Ebony -- I hope -- examines that, and impresses upon readers the difference and why that difference is important. I&#039;m gonna buy the magazine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I agree that the difference is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m happy, but there needs to be more discussion about how whites came out for Obama before blacks embraced him &#8212; and why.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to drop a little Jill Nelson on you. <a HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/books/review/Nelson-t.html?_r=1&#038;ref=firstchapters&#038;pagewanted=all&#038;oref=slogin#" REL="nofollow">From today&#8217;s NYTimes:</a></p>
<p><b>In the end, Steele’s portrayal of Barack Obama as a bound man is a result of his own failure of imagination, as is his tired assertion that blacks question Obama’s blackness. Black Americans’ slow embrace of Obama’s candidacy was strategic and pragmatic. We know Obama is black, and know he knows it, too. What we also know is that to embrace him too enthusiastically risks making whites uncomfortable with him and then we all lose. </b></p>
<p><i>Obama is not about &#8216;in our lifetime&#8217;. He&#8217;s not in this to be the first black president (unlike Hillary pulling gender out of her ass every two seconds).</i></p>
<p>This is so true, and one of the most revolutionary things about him. </p>
<p><i>He&#8217;s in this to be president, period. Ebony &#8212; I hope &#8212; examines that, and impresses upon readers the difference and why that difference is important. I&#8217;m gonna buy the magazine.<br /></i></p>
<p>I agree that the difference is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;In our Lifetime&#039; --- ooooooo, the white feminists are gonna be maaaaaaaaaaaaad.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Remember, it&#039;s their turn according to them.  Negro wait your turn.  Just like they told african-american female pilots in World War 2.  &#039;It&#039;s not fair&#039; -- just like they&#039;ll claim and have always claimed it&#039;s not fair that blacks (ie - black men) got the vote before women (ie - white women).  Race trumps sex, even if the heifers don&#039;t want to admit it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for &#039;our lifetime&#039;, there are some certain rewrites going down here.  The Clinton black supporters were all over claiming Obama isn&#039;t really black because his daddy is Africa African instead of American slave.  Don&#039;t hear that as much anymore, but I believe that needs to be dealt with.  I remember the lockhold the Clintons were supposed to have on blacks.  They still have it... though the Huckabee Christian black faction should not be denied.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m happy, but there needs to be more discussion about how whites came out for Obama before blacks embraced him -- and why.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama is not about &#039;in our lifetime&#039;.  He&#039;s not in this to be the first black president (unlike Hillary pulling gender out of her ass every two seconds).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He&#039;s in this to be president, period.  Ebony -- I hope -- examines that, and impresses upon readers the difference and why that difference is important.  I&#039;m gonna buy the magazine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It will be for my own grandmother, who passed away a little over a year ago, who collected magazines with important covers.  I wish I could talk to her about Barack Obama and hear her actual voice, instead of hear her in my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;In our Lifetime&#8217; &#8212; ooooooo, the white feminists are gonna be maaaaaaaaaaaaad.</p>
<p>Remember, it&#8217;s their turn according to them.  Negro wait your turn.  Just like they told african-american female pilots in World War 2.  &#8216;It&#8217;s not fair&#8217; &#8212; just like they&#8217;ll claim and have always claimed it&#8217;s not fair that blacks (ie &#8211; black men) got the vote before women (ie &#8211; white women).  Race trumps sex, even if the heifers don&#8217;t want to admit it.</p>
<p>As for &#8216;our lifetime&#8217;, there are some certain rewrites going down here.  The Clinton black supporters were all over claiming Obama isn&#8217;t really black because his daddy is Africa African instead of American slave.  Don&#8217;t hear that as much anymore, but I believe that needs to be dealt with.  I remember the lockhold the Clintons were supposed to have on blacks.  They still have it&#8230; though the Huckabee Christian black faction should not be denied.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy, but there needs to be more discussion about how whites came out for Obama before blacks embraced him &#8212; and why.</p>
<p>Obama is not about &#8216;in our lifetime&#8217;.  He&#8217;s not in this to be the first black president (unlike Hillary pulling gender out of her ass every two seconds).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s in this to be president, period.  Ebony &#8212; I hope &#8212; examines that, and impresses upon readers the difference and why that difference is important.  I&#8217;m gonna buy the magazine.</p>
<p>It will be for my own grandmother, who passed away a little over a year ago, who collected magazines with important covers.  I wish I could talk to her about Barack Obama and hear her actual voice, instead of hear her in my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: G.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ the implicit dig @ Ebony.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&#039;It&#039;s not a bad article.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ the implicit dig @ Ebony.</p>
<p>&#8216;It&#8217;s not a bad article.&#8217;</p>
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