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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Is Trying To Sabotage Obama In November</title>
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		<title>By: Caribbean Lionesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caribbean Lionesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous, the &#039;unappreciative&#039; tag was bound to come. In the minds of many white folks (especially the so-called liberal ones) black people are supposed to be grateful for being &#039;allowed&#039; basic civil rights. In their minds, it is never a matter of us working three times as hard to accomplish what we do, it is that we were &#039;given&#039; these things.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wrote a whole blog post on it (http://caribbeanlionesse.blogspot.com/2008/01/weve-heard-this-one-before.html) back in January when HRC made her Johnson/King comments and then boo-hooed they were taken out of context.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As to the Hilary mocking... I&#039;m actually of two minds on this. Being from the Caribbean, this would actually be mild platform behaviour. Our political culture is such that we prefer to have our substance written down in the manifesto but when it comes to the platform, it&#039;s pure theatre and mud-slinging. People go to rallies just for entertainment and the most humourous and biting politicians are the stars. We just had an election here last month and it was bacchanal!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thing is, while I&#039;m used to it in my context, it was pretty jarring to see an American presidential candidate do it. Not to mention - it&#039;s one thing to cuss your opponent, but it&#039;s another thing to cuss the voters...especially if the voters are from your own side. I have NEVER seen anything like that anywhere. Who the heck insults and mocks their own voters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, the &#8216;unappreciative&#8217; tag was bound to come. In the minds of many white folks (especially the so-called liberal ones) black people are supposed to be grateful for being &#8216;allowed&#8217; basic civil rights. In their minds, it is never a matter of us working three times as hard to accomplish what we do, it is that we were &#8216;given&#8217; these things.</p>
<p>I wrote a whole blog post on it (<a href="http://caribbeanlionesse.blogspot.com/2008/01/weve-heard-this-one-before.html" rel="nofollow">http://caribbeanlionesse.blogspot.com/2008/01/weve-heard-this-one-before.html</a>) back in January when HRC made her Johnson/King comments and then boo-hooed they were taken out of context.</p>
<p>As to the Hilary mocking&#8230; I&#8217;m actually of two minds on this. Being from the Caribbean, this would actually be mild platform behaviour. Our political culture is such that we prefer to have our substance written down in the manifesto but when it comes to the platform, it&#8217;s pure theatre and mud-slinging. People go to rallies just for entertainment and the most humourous and biting politicians are the stars. We just had an election here last month and it was bacchanal!</p>
<p>Thing is, while I&#8217;m used to it in my context, it was pretty jarring to see an American presidential candidate do it. Not to mention &#8211; it&#8217;s one thing to cuss your opponent, but it&#8217;s another thing to cuss the voters&#8230;especially if the voters are from your own side. I have NEVER seen anything like that anywhere. Who the heck insults and mocks their own voters?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B Serious, you betta preach!!! Speak on it! I also saw that pundit complain about Obama writing during the debate, and I couldn&#039;t believe my ears! I&#039;ve also heard pundits beginning to use adjectives such as &quot;arrogant&quot;, &quot;entitled&quot;, and &quot;unappreciative&quot; to describe the Obamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B Serious, you betta preach!!! Speak on it! I also saw that pundit complain about Obama writing during the debate, and I couldn&#8217;t believe my ears! I&#8217;ve also heard pundits beginning to use adjectives such as &#8220;arrogant&#8221;, &#8220;entitled&#8221;, and &#8220;unappreciative&#8221; to describe the Obamas.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b-serious:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You were so on the money on your entire reply, but I was feeling you here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;You know, I’d love to see the press give Obama as much room to be a stereotypical black man as they give Clinton to be a stereotypical woman. I’d love to see Obama get the opportunity to go straight up gangsta and show his a*s! But we all know that would never happen. The second he shows ANY aggression whatsoever, is the moment people see him as the “angry black man.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wrote about this in my endorsement of Obama, so you know that I agree with you. He simply doesn&#039;t get enough credit for what he&#039;s doing, which is nothing short of remarkable. I&#039;m going to write a long post about Obama&#039;s journey later on, but, I wish Black folk would step back and realize what he&#039;s on the cusp of doing. How utterly phemonenal he is. I&#039;m not gushing to be gushing, but give the man HIS DAMN PROPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b-serious:</p>
<p>You were so on the money on your entire reply, but I was feeling you here:</p>
<p><i>You know, I’d love to see the press give Obama as much room to be a stereotypical black man as they give Clinton to be a stereotypical woman. I’d love to see Obama get the opportunity to go straight up gangsta and show his a*s! But we all know that would never happen. The second he shows ANY aggression whatsoever, is the moment people see him as the “angry black man.”<br /></i></p>
<p>I wrote about this in my endorsement of Obama, so you know that I agree with you. He simply doesn&#8217;t get enough credit for what he&#8217;s doing, which is nothing short of remarkable. I&#8217;m going to write a long post about Obama&#8217;s journey later on, but, I wish Black folk would step back and realize what he&#8217;s on the cusp of doing. How utterly phemonenal he is. I&#8217;m not gushing to be gushing, but give the man HIS DAMN PROPS.</p>
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		<title>By: The LOC Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The LOC Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B-Serious . . . PUH-REEEEEACH!!! I read your commentary, and was like, damn, who is this B-Serious kat and why is he all up in MY head? LOL!!!! EVERYTHING you said, I felt the same. I saw the media pundit you are talking about when he said &quot;Barack was writing while she was talking.&quot; When he said that, I jumped out of my seat in my living room and threw a few of my couch pillows at my TV set. It got me REALLY pissed. Did you (or anybody) see the one media pundit complain that Obama&#039;s winning speech (Wisconsin) was TOO LONG?? Excuse me. First he doesn&#039;t give enough details, and when he does, he speaks TOO LONG? Which is it? OMG!!! Let me wrap up this commentary before I get riled up again. Besides, Keith Olbermann (MSNBC) is coming on in a few minutes, and I swear this kat is about the ONLY one who I can listen to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-Serious . . . PUH-REEEEEACH!!! I read your commentary, and was like, damn, who is this B-Serious kat and why is he all up in MY head? LOL!!!! EVERYTHING you said, I felt the same. I saw the media pundit you are talking about when he said &#8220;Barack was writing while she was talking.&#8221; When he said that, I jumped out of my seat in my living room and threw a few of my couch pillows at my TV set. It got me REALLY pissed. Did you (or anybody) see the one media pundit complain that Obama&#8217;s winning speech (Wisconsin) was TOO LONG?? Excuse me. First he doesn&#8217;t give enough details, and when he does, he speaks TOO LONG? Which is it? OMG!!! Let me wrap up this commentary before I get riled up again. Besides, Keith Olbermann (MSNBC) is coming on in a few minutes, and I swear this kat is about the ONLY one who I can listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B-Serious&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Props to you! Loved it!</description>
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<p>Props to you! Loved it!</p>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anonymous said...  &lt;i&gt;&quot;Clinton’s sabotaging Obama for November is the beginning of her 2012 campaign.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For some reason, that phrasing is disturbing to me.  Not you, the implication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anonymous said&#8230;  <i>&#8220;Clinton’s sabotaging Obama for November is the beginning of her 2012 campaign.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>For some reason, that phrasing is disturbing to me.  Not you, the implication.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s Why Clinton Lashed Out at Obama -- Brilliant Approach &lt;br/&gt;http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/heres-why-clinton-lashed-out-at-obama-022408002.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This article suggest that Clinton is trying to give the appearance that Obama is attacking her unfairly because the exit polls in Wisconsin suggest this would get people to vote for her.   Keep in mind that these are old flyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s Why Clinton Lashed Out at Obama &#8212; Brilliant Approach <br /><a href="http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/heres-why-clinton-lashed-out-at-obama-022408002.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/heres-why-clinton-lashed-out-at-obama-022408002.html</a></p>
<p>This article suggest that Clinton is trying to give the appearance that Obama is attacking her unfairly because the exit polls in Wisconsin suggest this would get people to vote for her.   Keep in mind that these are old flyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boon in quotation marks is not correct, but her over position on NAFTA is not a distortion. &lt;br/&gt;Obama&#039;s factcheck website gives a link to the article.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Take the word boon out of quotes, and everything else is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boon in quotation marks is not correct, but her over position on NAFTA is not a distortion. <br />Obama&#8217;s factcheck website gives a link to the article.</p>
<p>Take the word boon out of quotes, and everything else is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderkoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderkoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NAFTA attack is a distortion (look it up on factchecker), and I&#039;m not going to make excuses for it. I&#039;d rather not go down the &quot;she&#039;s done more of it than he has&quot; route either. All in all, though, Obama has run a remarkably clean campaign -- most importantly on the financing side.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;btw, it amuses me that on the NYTimes.com site (which leans Hillary), &quot;Obama&quot; is consistently in the top 3 search terms, while &quot;Hillary Clinton&quot; is near the bottom or sometimes not even on the Top 10 list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NAFTA attack is a distortion (look it up on factchecker), and I&#8217;m not going to make excuses for it. I&#8217;d rather not go down the &#8220;she&#8217;s done more of it than he has&#8221; route either. All in all, though, Obama has run a remarkably clean campaign &#8212; most importantly on the financing side.</p>
<p>btw, it amuses me that on the NYTimes.com site (which leans Hillary), &#8220;Obama&#8221; is consistently in the top 3 search terms, while &#8220;Hillary Clinton&#8221; is near the bottom or sometimes not even on the Top 10 list.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton’s sabotaging Obama for November is the beginning of her 2012 campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton’s sabotaging Obama for November is the beginning of her 2012 campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b-serious~&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Co-sign.  Every word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b-serious~</p>
<p>Co-sign.  Every word.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case my link was truncated above, here is the url shortenend.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://tinyurl.com/29t4j8&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OOO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case my link was truncated above, here is the url shortenend.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/29t4j8" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/29t4j8</a></p>
<p>OOO</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary is not the only one trying to sabotage Obama.  History often repeats itself and the Shirley Chisholm run bears out some of the same antagonistic forces at play now.  We see through the antics of the 10% and still support the BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB with ~90% support.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/811441,CST-EDT-Washington25.article&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OOO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary is not the only one trying to sabotage Obama.  History often repeats itself and the Shirley Chisholm run bears out some of the same antagonistic forces at play now.  We see through the antics of the 10% and still support the BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB with ~90% support.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/811441,CST-EDT-Washington25.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/811441,CST-EDT-Washington25.article</a></p>
<p>OOO</p>
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		<title>By: Nonie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To b-serious: &lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re wrong, but I am saying that not all of the media has Hillary&#039;s back. I&#039;ve been watching MSNBC all morning, and they&#039;re basically all rolling their eyes and saying she&#039;s come undone and that the wheels are coming off the bus, the campaign is over, etc. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, the SNL skit was definitely pro-Hillary, but - let&#039;s be honest - who the hell watches SNL anymore? Okay, you did and I did too, but i don&#039;t think there are very many of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To b-serious: <br />I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re wrong, but I am saying that not all of the media has Hillary&#8217;s back. I&#8217;ve been watching MSNBC all morning, and they&#8217;re basically all rolling their eyes and saying she&#8217;s come undone and that the wheels are coming off the bus, the campaign is over, etc. </p>
<p>Yeah, the SNL skit was definitely pro-Hillary, but &#8211; let&#8217;s be honest &#8211; who the hell watches SNL anymore? Okay, you did and I did too, but i don&#8217;t think there are very many of us.</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the long post, but I just saw something that’s driving me crazy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OMG!?!? The media is actually giving Hillary positive press for her tantrums over the weekend.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I’m not kidding. They’re spinning it as a rallying cry for feminists. Taking lead from Tina Fey’s sketch on SNL, her tantrum is somehow being spun into an ownership of the word, “bi*ch.” You have people on tv talking about the double standards that women face in politics (i.e., men are assertive and women are bi*ches). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I won’t deny that women face double standards. And I know that there is some truth in that analysis. But this is not Jane Doe, this is Hillary Clinton. The media is doing nothing but excusing her behavior.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Guess what, that “double standard” theory doesn’t fly when her opponent has gone out of his way to be as respectful as he possibly can towards her (despite her repeated attacks). I could see if she was running against some sexist prick. But she’s not. Yet she wants to take her anger at the media and re-direct it towards Obama and his success? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why doesn’t the media focus it’s attention on how disrespectful she has been towards him? She won’t acknowledge his victories; she mocks his message; she scolds his supporters; she calls him an empty suit; she calls his words, “cheap,” and his hope, “false.” The list goes on and on. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don’t care if she’s a woman, man or whatever . . . when you’re wrong, you’re wrong. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;“Shame on you Barack Obama”?!?!?! Who the hell is she to talk to him like he’s some 4 year old? This ain’t pre-school and her condescending attitude is getting real tired, real fast. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Senator Obama is a grown a*s man. He’s just as accomplished as she is, yet she wants to go around the country and call him some naive rookie??? She dismisses his supporters and ignores the impact that he has had. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It’s never good enough. He can win 11 straight states by an average of 33%, but it’s still NEVER GOOD ENOUGH! He can expand the Democratic party by bringing in Independents, cross-over Republicans and first-time voters, but it’s NEVER GOOD ENOUGH! He can draw crowds of 20,000 but it’s NEVER GOOD ENOUGH! He can win more states (24 to 11), have a commanding lead in Pledged delegates, have a strong lead in the popular vote . . . but it’s still NEVER GOOD ENOUGH!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No. We still have to hear the media talk about a Clinton comeback, even when the MATH says it’s highly unlikely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She needs to stop making excuses. She needs to recognize that (beleive it or not) this brotha is just doing a better job at reaching the voters than she is. Plain and simple. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Her stunts are going to backfire on her. It has nothing to do with being a man or woman. Democratic primary voters don’t like negative politics . . . it’s as simple as that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You know, I’d love to see the press give Obama as much room to be a stereotypical black man as they give Clinton to be a stereotypical woman. I’d love to see Obama get the opportunity to go straight up gangsta and show his a*s! But we all know that would never happen. The second he shows ANY aggression whatsoever, is the moment people see him as the “angry black man.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This goes to show that there are differences in how the media treats race and gender. I’m not saying that they’re better or worse, just different. I’m just gonna say it. This country has an instinct to protect white women.  It can be a burden at times (i.e., Cult of True Womanhood) but it&#039;s still there.  Hillary gets her feelings hurt and voters rush to her aide. She throws a fit and we make excuses because, after all, we can’t forget those double standards, right? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yet, at the same time, we have an instinct to FEAR black men. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tell me, what would happen if Obama went on a tirade against Hillary, like she’s done over the weekend??? What would happen if he (gasp) raised his voice to this white woman? What would happen if he spent all of his time talking about the “white man,” the way Hillary talks about the “boys club?”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rick Lazio, a white man, found out when he “invaded her personal space.” If he took the fall, you can imagine what would happen to Obama’s black a*s the second he steps out of line.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hillary faces a lot of obstacles through sexism, no doubt. But there are moments where she benefits as well. There are moments where she has the luxury to portray herself as the victim to garner sympathy from voters and the media. There are moments where she can, as Melissa Harris-Lacewell (a black woman, professor) notes, slip in and out of her “Scarlett O’Hara” routine. It’s a prime example of how mainstream media discusses gender bias without recognizing the white privilege that often comes with it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You want to talk about double standards? Obama has run his campaign under the interrogation of white approval ever since he made that speech at the DNC in 2004. He knows he can’t do or say certain things because he can’t afford to make white folk uncomfortable, especially when running against a white woman. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Trust me, we all know the routine. Smile . . . show your teeth . . . get that base out of your voice . . . don’t look them straight in the eye . . . don’t show emotion . . . make them comfortable and they might call you one of “those good black people,” and throw you a few crumbs. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once again, I know that we have to fight sexism as vigorously as we fight racism. And we should be doing a better job at it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I also know that there are many “oppressed” white women who would never trade places with my black a*s. That same “oppressed” white woman has been quick to clutch her purse and call the cops when she sees me in her neighborhood after 8:00pm.  Hillary reminds me of one of those types of people.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s more complicated than the media would like to suggest.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So to the media: Fine, point out the double standards. But don’t make excuses for Hillary’s poor and divisive behavior. And don’t pretend like Obama doesn’t walk a tight rope everyday as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama caught hell just for saying, “you’re likeable, enough” because people didn’t like the tone of his voice. He caught hell for the “snub” because he happened to be talking to someone else when she came by. I swear, I almost fell out of my chair late last week when I heard a pundit criticize Obama for WRITING ON HIS NOTEPAD while Hillary spoke at the debate. I guess he was being disrespectful because he wasn’t looking at her when she talked. Give me a break!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can’t make this any clearer. Obama has to RUN AWAY from issues of race for fear of being labled the “black candidate.” It’s the only way he can win. Yet, Hillary gets to embrace “girl power” in ways Obama could NEVER embrace “black power.” Now you’ve got Tina Fey saying “Bi*ch is the new black.” WTF does that mean?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Some see Hillary as a victim. But some of us also know what discrimination is. And for a lot of us, we see Hillary as a grown a*s woman who knows exactly what she’s doing. She conveniently plays off of gender oppression and white privelege every chance she gets. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Some of us don’t see her as a victim, and never have. What we see is a privileged person who thought the white house was her entitlement. And she can’t stand the fact that this uppity negroe didn’t wait his turn in line.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the media keeps falling for her BS. The narrative remains the same . . . everything goes back to “POOR HILLARY”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the long post, but I just saw something that’s driving me crazy.</p>
<p>OMG!?!? The media is actually giving Hillary positive press for her tantrums over the weekend.</p>
<p>I’m not kidding. They’re spinning it as a rallying cry for feminists. Taking lead from Tina Fey’s sketch on SNL, her tantrum is somehow being spun into an ownership of the word, “bi*ch.” You have people on tv talking about the double standards that women face in politics (i.e., men are assertive and women are bi*ches). </p>
<p>Now, I won’t deny that women face double standards. And I know that there is some truth in that analysis. But this is not Jane Doe, this is Hillary Clinton. The media is doing nothing but excusing her behavior.</p>
<p>Guess what, that “double standard” theory doesn’t fly when her opponent has gone out of his way to be as respectful as he possibly can towards her (despite her repeated attacks). I could see if she was running against some sexist prick. But she’s not. Yet she wants to take her anger at the media and re-direct it towards Obama and his success? </p>
<p>Why doesn’t the media focus it’s attention on how disrespectful she has been towards him? She won’t acknowledge his victories; she mocks his message; she scolds his supporters; she calls him an empty suit; she calls his words, “cheap,” and his hope, “false.” The list goes on and on. </p>
<p>I don’t care if she’s a woman, man or whatever . . . when you’re wrong, you’re wrong. </p>
<p>“Shame on you Barack Obama”?!?!?! Who the hell is she to talk to him like he’s some 4 year old? This ain’t pre-school and her condescending attitude is getting real tired, real fast. </p>
<p>Senator Obama is a grown a*s man. He’s just as accomplished as she is, yet she wants to go around the country and call him some naive rookie??? She dismisses his supporters and ignores the impact that he has had. </p>
<p>It’s never good enough. He can win 11 straight states by an average of 33%, but it’s still NEVER GOOD ENOUGH! He can expand the Democratic party by bringing in Independents, cross-over Republicans and first-time voters, but it’s NEVER GOOD ENOUGH! He can draw crowds of 20,000 but it’s NEVER GOOD ENOUGH! He can win more states (24 to 11), have a commanding lead in Pledged delegates, have a strong lead in the popular vote . . . but it’s still NEVER GOOD ENOUGH!</p>
<p>No. We still have to hear the media talk about a Clinton comeback, even when the MATH says it’s highly unlikely.</p>
<p>She needs to stop making excuses. She needs to recognize that (beleive it or not) this brotha is just doing a better job at reaching the voters than she is. Plain and simple. </p>
<p>Her stunts are going to backfire on her. It has nothing to do with being a man or woman. Democratic primary voters don’t like negative politics . . . it’s as simple as that.</p>
<p>You know, I’d love to see the press give Obama as much room to be a stereotypical black man as they give Clinton to be a stereotypical woman. I’d love to see Obama get the opportunity to go straight up gangsta and show his a*s! But we all know that would never happen. The second he shows ANY aggression whatsoever, is the moment people see him as the “angry black man.”</p>
<p>This goes to show that there are differences in how the media treats race and gender. I’m not saying that they’re better or worse, just different. I’m just gonna say it. This country has an instinct to protect white women.  It can be a burden at times (i.e., Cult of True Womanhood) but it&#8217;s still there.  Hillary gets her feelings hurt and voters rush to her aide. She throws a fit and we make excuses because, after all, we can’t forget those double standards, right? </p>
<p>Yet, at the same time, we have an instinct to FEAR black men. </p>
<p>Tell me, what would happen if Obama went on a tirade against Hillary, like she’s done over the weekend??? What would happen if he (gasp) raised his voice to this white woman? What would happen if he spent all of his time talking about the “white man,” the way Hillary talks about the “boys club?”</p>
<p>Rick Lazio, a white man, found out when he “invaded her personal space.” If he took the fall, you can imagine what would happen to Obama’s black a*s the second he steps out of line.</p>
<p>Hillary faces a lot of obstacles through sexism, no doubt. But there are moments where she benefits as well. There are moments where she has the luxury to portray herself as the victim to garner sympathy from voters and the media. There are moments where she can, as Melissa Harris-Lacewell (a black woman, professor) notes, slip in and out of her “Scarlett O’Hara” routine. It’s a prime example of how mainstream media discusses gender bias without recognizing the white privilege that often comes with it.</p>
<p>You want to talk about double standards? Obama has run his campaign under the interrogation of white approval ever since he made that speech at the DNC in 2004. He knows he can’t do or say certain things because he can’t afford to make white folk uncomfortable, especially when running against a white woman. </p>
<p>Trust me, we all know the routine. Smile . . . show your teeth . . . get that base out of your voice . . . don’t look them straight in the eye . . . don’t show emotion . . . make them comfortable and they might call you one of “those good black people,” and throw you a few crumbs. </p>
<p>Once again, I know that we have to fight sexism as vigorously as we fight racism. And we should be doing a better job at it.</p>
<p>But I also know that there are many “oppressed” white women who would never trade places with my black a*s. That same “oppressed” white woman has been quick to clutch her purse and call the cops when she sees me in her neighborhood after 8:00pm.  Hillary reminds me of one of those types of people.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that it&#8217;s more complicated than the media would like to suggest.</p>
<p>So to the media: Fine, point out the double standards. But don’t make excuses for Hillary’s poor and divisive behavior. And don’t pretend like Obama doesn’t walk a tight rope everyday as well.</p>
<p>Obama caught hell just for saying, “you’re likeable, enough” because people didn’t like the tone of his voice. He caught hell for the “snub” because he happened to be talking to someone else when she came by. I swear, I almost fell out of my chair late last week when I heard a pundit criticize Obama for WRITING ON HIS NOTEPAD while Hillary spoke at the debate. I guess he was being disrespectful because he wasn’t looking at her when she talked. Give me a break!</p>
<p>I can’t make this any clearer. Obama has to RUN AWAY from issues of race for fear of being labled the “black candidate.” It’s the only way he can win. Yet, Hillary gets to embrace “girl power” in ways Obama could NEVER embrace “black power.” Now you’ve got Tina Fey saying “Bi*ch is the new black.” WTF does that mean?</p>
<p>Some see Hillary as a victim. But some of us also know what discrimination is. And for a lot of us, we see Hillary as a grown a*s woman who knows exactly what she’s doing. She conveniently plays off of gender oppression and white privelege every chance she gets. </p>
<p>Some of us don’t see her as a victim, and never have. What we see is a privileged person who thought the white house was her entitlement. And she can’t stand the fact that this uppity negroe didn’t wait his turn in line.</p>
<p>But the media keeps falling for her BS. The narrative remains the same . . . everything goes back to “POOR HILLARY”</p>
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		<title>By: The Christian Progressive Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Christian Progressive Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say this; she is pissing off white women here in DC.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A strong woman does not resort to all the tactics she has pulled out of her arsenal; crying, mocking, yelling shrilly - that&#039;s pissing off white women in DC because they feel her 1960s, &quot;I love Lucy&quot; antics are reversing their progress and they&#039;re going for Obama in droves.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She need look no further than what happened to girlfriend who challenged Deval Patrick for the state House in Massachusetts and the Patriots saw right through her and elected Patrick in a landslide.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m thinking the states she won in the primaries were as a result of early voting and not seeing her for what she was until after she had their votes in her back pocket.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My brother lives in LA - he said that the majority, including Latinos, went for Obama; and the ones who didn&#039;t were the ones who voted early and got Buyer&#039;s Remorse.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We want a woman POTUS at some point.  Just not Hillary.  I can think of too many other women who are more qualified, starting with my home Senator, Barbara Boxer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say this; she is pissing off white women here in DC.</p>
<p>A strong woman does not resort to all the tactics she has pulled out of her arsenal; crying, mocking, yelling shrilly &#8211; that&#8217;s pissing off white women in DC because they feel her 1960s, &#8220;I love Lucy&#8221; antics are reversing their progress and they&#8217;re going for Obama in droves.</p>
<p>She need look no further than what happened to girlfriend who challenged Deval Patrick for the state House in Massachusetts and the Patriots saw right through her and elected Patrick in a landslide.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the states she won in the primaries were as a result of early voting and not seeing her for what she was until after she had their votes in her back pocket.</p>
<p>My brother lives in LA &#8211; he said that the majority, including Latinos, went for Obama; and the ones who didn&#8217;t were the ones who voted early and got Buyer&#8217;s Remorse.</p>
<p>We want a woman POTUS at some point.  Just not Hillary.  I can think of too many other women who are more qualified, starting with my home Senator, Barbara Boxer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;WAKE UP PEOPLE YOU ARE BEING PLAYED&lt;/i&gt; -- Shazzam Nakim&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As expected, the Clintonites are so desparate, that they&#039;re deluded themselves into believing that they&#039;re going to change people&#039;s minds by posing as &quot;neutral observers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>WAKE UP PEOPLE YOU ARE BEING PLAYED</i> &#8212; Shazzam Nakim</p>
<p>As expected, the Clintonites are so desparate, that they&#8217;re deluded themselves into believing that they&#8217;re going to change people&#8217;s minds by posing as &#8220;neutral observers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;obama has been mocking hillary and edwards in his rallies for a long time now. nobody seemed to care then.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If nobody seemed to care, then most likely it wasn&#039;t mockery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>obama has been mocking hillary and edwards in his rallies for a long time now. nobody seemed to care then.</i></p>
<p>If nobody seemed to care, then most likely it wasn&#8217;t mockery.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Nonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! Over at Drudge: &lt;br/&gt;http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoa.htm&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Quote: &quot;With a week to go until the Texas and Ohio primaries, stressed Clinton staffers circulated a photo over the weekend of a &quot;dressed&quot; Barack Obama. The photo, taken in 2006, shows the Democrat frontrunner fitted as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So - now, not only is he the &quot;black&quot; candidate, he&#039;s what? - the &quot;African&quot; candidate? What are they trying to say here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! Over at Drudge: <br /><a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoa.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoa.htm</a></p>
<p>Quote: &#8220;With a week to go until the Texas and Ohio primaries, stressed Clinton staffers circulated a photo over the weekend of a &#8220;dressed&#8221; Barack Obama. The photo, taken in 2006, shows the Democrat frontrunner fitted as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8211; now, not only is he the &#8220;black&#8221; candidate, he&#8217;s what? &#8211; the &#8220;African&#8221; candidate? What are they trying to say here?</p>
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		<title>By: I'm an OBAMA mama!</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm an OBAMA mama!</dc:creator>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t buy it when folks that her last debate comment was a concession and I don&#039;t buy it now that these &#039;mocking&#039; comments are her &#039;losing it&#039; re: Obama.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is all planned by her sorry campaign advisors.  They think it will work and so does she.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve never thought that Obama was above reproach.   I don&#039;t think that of any politician.  He is not the next coming of Moses, but nor was Edwards the best thing for poor people. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I never understood why people loved Bill Clinton so much.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama is a damn good politician, nothing more, nothing less.  I  will still have to go work every day.  I will still have to raise my son, fight with the school board, put out the trash, etc., etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But giving the choices of presidential candidates, he&#039;s got my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t buy it when folks that her last debate comment was a concession and I don&#8217;t buy it now that these &#8216;mocking&#8217; comments are her &#8216;losing it&#8217; re: Obama.  </p>
<p>It is all planned by her sorry campaign advisors.  They think it will work and so does she.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never thought that Obama was above reproach.   I don&#8217;t think that of any politician.  He is not the next coming of Moses, but nor was Edwards the best thing for poor people. </p>
<p>I never understood why people loved Bill Clinton so much.</p>
<p>Obama is a damn good politician, nothing more, nothing less.  I  will still have to go work every day.  I will still have to raise my son, fight with the school board, put out the trash, etc., etc.</p>
<p>But giving the choices of presidential candidates, he&#8217;s got my vote.</p>
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