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	<title>Comments on: Frank Rich Says Clinton Bungled Her Campaign Like Bush Bungled Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Anderkoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderkoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ndn5898: I&#039;m sure the Clinton campaign well understands the TX system. She&#039;s trying to downplay expectations (again). Of course, so does the Obama campaign, though even they may be internally underestimating their wins (an internal memo that was accidentally cc&#039;ed to the press indicated that they expected to win WI by 7%, and I&#039;m pretty sure they underestimated SC as well).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Frank Rich article hits where it hurts: Hillary&#039;s military(ish) credentials. Nice PR spin, Frank.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To be fair, a lot of campaign skills don&#039;t necessarily correlate actual leadership. But IMHO high-level stuff like planning and strategic thinking does, so I do think this article is a fair critique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ndn5898: I&#8217;m sure the Clinton campaign well understands the TX system. She&#8217;s trying to downplay expectations (again). Of course, so does the Obama campaign, though even they may be internally underestimating their wins (an internal memo that was accidentally cc&#8217;ed to the press indicated that they expected to win WI by 7%, and I&#8217;m pretty sure they underestimated SC as well).</p>
<p>The Frank Rich article hits where it hurts: Hillary&#8217;s military(ish) credentials. Nice PR spin, Frank.</p>
<p>To be fair, a lot of campaign skills don&#8217;t necessarily correlate actual leadership. But IMHO high-level stuff like planning and strategic thinking does, so I do think this article is a fair critique.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain and Clinton have both been dreadful at managing their campaigns.  If running a campaign is a precursor to how they would govern the nation, than this should raise some eyebrows about their executive leadership ability in a civilian capacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain and Clinton have both been dreadful at managing their campaigns.  If running a campaign is a precursor to how they would govern the nation, than this should raise some eyebrows about their executive leadership ability in a civilian capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why do you think Obama is acting like the nominee already? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good strategy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;And he&#039;s getting critiqued in many (Hillary) corners from being too arrogant, too overconfident.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Any competent Black man who isn&#039;t bowing and scraping will be called arrogant and overconfident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why do you think Obama is acting like the nominee already? </i></p>
<p>Good strategy.</p>
<p><i>And he&#8217;s getting critiqued in many (Hillary) corners from being too arrogant, too overconfident.</i></p>
<p>Any competent Black man who isn&#8217;t bowing and scraping will be called arrogant and overconfident.</p>
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		<title>By: ndn5898</title>
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		<dc:creator>ndn5898</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one question:  How in the hell can she position herself as the &quot;experienced&quot; candidate if she did not know about the Texas primary-caucus hybrid??  She supposedly learned a Presidential amount from her experience as first lady, but did not know about the primary process in Texas..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one question:  How in the hell can she position herself as the &#8220;experienced&#8221; candidate if she did not know about the Texas primary-caucus hybrid??  She supposedly learned a Presidential amount from her experience as first lady, but did not know about the primary process in Texas..</p>
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		<title>By: Nichelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nichelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;I&#039;ve told you before:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama&#039;s campaign will be studied, in Political Science classes, for many years to come. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I absolutely agree with this - I was thinking the same thing, especially after the &quot;no Plan B after Feb. 5&quot; strategy failed so miserably for the Clintons. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think this is a lesson that can be applied beyond politics as well, ie. big businesses ignoring competition from smaller competitors, etc. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another important point that has been brought up occasionally is the role of technology.  The Obama campaign&#039;s superior use of technology has been crucial to his success - from blogs like J&amp;JP, to Obama&#039;s presence on social networks (I have even noticed him on a new social network for writers called The Red Room (http://www.redroom.com/author/barack-obama)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Writers including Amy Tan and Alice Walker have a presence there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sen. Obama is also strong on the Net Neutrality issue - another crucial issue that keeps the internet a level playing ground for  those of us outside MSM and the Beltway.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Can you imagine this election without blogs, YouTube, thomas.loc.gov and various search engines to research past articles and issues?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yikes!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sen. Obama on Net Neutrality via his U.S. Senate website:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060608-network_neutral/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I&#8217;ve told you before:</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s campaign will be studied, in Political Science classes, for many years to come. </b></p>
<p>I absolutely agree with this &#8211; I was thinking the same thing, especially after the &#8220;no Plan B after Feb. 5&#8243; strategy failed so miserably for the Clintons. </p>
<p>I think this is a lesson that can be applied beyond politics as well, ie. big businesses ignoring competition from smaller competitors, etc. </p>
<p>Another important point that has been brought up occasionally is the role of technology.  The Obama campaign&#8217;s superior use of technology has been crucial to his success &#8211; from blogs like J&#038;JP, to Obama&#8217;s presence on social networks (I have even noticed him on a new social network for writers called The Red Room (<a href="http://www.redroom.com/author/barack-obama" rel="nofollow">http://www.redroom.com/author/barack-obama</a>)</p>
<p>Writers including Amy Tan and Alice Walker have a presence there.</p>
<p>Sen. Obama is also strong on the Net Neutrality issue &#8211; another crucial issue that keeps the internet a level playing ground for  those of us outside MSM and the Beltway.</p>
<p>Can you imagine this election without blogs, YouTube, thomas.loc.gov and various search engines to research past articles and issues?</p>
<p>Yikes!</p>
<p>Sen. Obama on Net Neutrality via his U.S. Senate website:</p>
<p><a href="http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060608-network_neutral/" rel="nofollow">http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060608-network_neutral/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama camp has been promoting the math ever since Wisconsin. As have all the pundits. Even the ones who have been scripting Hillary&#039;s comeback since the Potomac Primaries. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why do you think Obama is acting like the nominee already? And he&#039;s getting critiqued in many (Hillary) corners from being too arrogant, too overconfident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama camp has been promoting the math ever since Wisconsin. As have all the pundits. Even the ones who have been scripting Hillary&#8217;s comeback since the Potomac Primaries. </p>
<p>Why do you think Obama is acting like the nominee already? And he&#8217;s getting critiqued in many (Hillary) corners from being too arrogant, too overconfident.</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baldwin,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama needs to pound the argument that focuses on the mathematics of proportional delegate allocation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The media is, once again, allowing Hillary to determine the terms of engagement.  Hillary needs to win both states by 20% or more.  Anything short of that and she turns into Mike Huckabee - just in it for the sake of pride and ego.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Truth is, Obama just has to keep both states close.  Hillary could win by 5% in Texas and still come up short in delegates due to the state&#039;s allocation process.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If Obama wins just one of those two states, this thing is over, and Obama will have every right to call on Hillary Clinton to drop out of the race (although, I actually think 11 straight losses by an average of 33% is enough cause for her to drop out now).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Winning TX and OH by small margins only helps Hillary in the perceptions game.  But it does little (if nothing at all) to address her deficit in the delegate race.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Obama camp needs to pound some variation of this message:  &quot;It&#039;s the MATH, stupid!&quot; (perhaps in kinder language, with less of an edge).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baldwin,</p>
<p>Obama needs to pound the argument that focuses on the mathematics of proportional delegate allocation.</p>
<p>The media is, once again, allowing Hillary to determine the terms of engagement.  Hillary needs to win both states by 20% or more.  Anything short of that and she turns into Mike Huckabee &#8211; just in it for the sake of pride and ego.</p>
<p>Truth is, Obama just has to keep both states close.  Hillary could win by 5% in Texas and still come up short in delegates due to the state&#8217;s allocation process.</p>
<p>If Obama wins just one of those two states, this thing is over, and Obama will have every right to call on Hillary Clinton to drop out of the race (although, I actually think 11 straight losses by an average of 33% is enough cause for her to drop out now).  </p>
<p>Winning TX and OH by small margins only helps Hillary in the perceptions game.  But it does little (if nothing at all) to address her deficit in the delegate race.</p>
<p>The Obama camp needs to pound some variation of this message:  &#8220;It&#8217;s the MATH, stupid!&#8221; (perhaps in kinder language, with less of an edge).</p>
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		<title>By: Baldwin Park Democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baldwin Park Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to be careful not to get too complacent.  The Clintons are a formidable political family.  If Obama can nail Texas and Ohio, I think  she will concede.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to be careful not to get too complacent.  The Clintons are a formidable political family.  If Obama can nail Texas and Ohio, I think  she will concede.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Frank Rich threw down in this column. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve told you before:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama&#039;s campaign will be studied, in Political Science classes, for many years to come. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They had no plan post Feb. 5th. Tim Russert on MTP busted her bold last Sunday by bringin up the quote that admitted as such. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They were going to dispatch this Uppity Negro on February 5th, and that was going to be that. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When it didn&#039;t happen, they had NO PLAN B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Frank Rich threw down in this column. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve told you before:</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s campaign will be studied, in Political Science classes, for many years to come. </p>
<p>They had no plan post Feb. 5th. Tim Russert on MTP busted her bold last Sunday by bringin up the quote that admitted as such. </p>
<p>They were going to dispatch this Uppity Negro on February 5th, and that was going to be that. </p>
<p>When it didn&#8217;t happen, they had NO PLAN B.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite stunning, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite stunning, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see...No plan B after Feb. 5th?  Running on the family name???  Loyalty over competence???  Paranoia of the media???  Secrecy (where are those tax returns?)???&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Seems like Hillary should be the last person to compare a fellow Democrat to George Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;No plan B after Feb. 5th?  Running on the family name???  Loyalty over competence???  Paranoia of the media???  Secrecy (where are those tax returns?)???</p>
<p>Seems like Hillary should be the last person to compare a fellow Democrat to George Bush.</p>
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