<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: A &#8216;Skeptic&#8217; Sees Some Obama Light</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:07:03 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3873</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3873</guid> <description>Hey all. I have to say as a white girl who grew up in a 99.5 percent white small farm town in the heartland it made me so proud of us in the Midwest and Great Plains for going with the absolute best presidential candidate in Barack Obama and not falling for the Clinton &quot;experience&quot; B.S. the way that those in Arkansas and the left coasts did and not getting tripped up by any of the nonsense about Obama&#039;s church or name.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What Obama has done is so remarkable though I&#039;m not sure if the media doesn&#039;t pay attention to it because they are racist so much as they think us in the fly-over states are rubes who don&#039;t count for anything so us demanding Obama as the nominee doesn&#039;t count as much as those in California or Massachusetts choosing Clinton. But I got to tell you as someone who has lived her whole life in middle America what Obama did is pretty amazing. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While my father never used the n-word the way his father (my grandpa) had, ten years ago my father was still so bad about race he wanted me to promise I would never bring home a black boyfriend (some of my female friends were going with black guys from the bigger town about a half hour away) and this was before I was even dating ANYONE and I was so enraged by that I hated him for years until our relations thawed somewhat when I went to college and we finally started talking about things and understanding each other. Well guess what? Out of the blue a couple months ago my dad, who not surprisingly was a Republican, was talking to me about politics and he informed me that he was thinking about voting for Obama because we just need &quot;total change.&quot; He asked me for information about him (although along the way I had to disabuse him of more racist constructs when he would tell me how Obama is not an &quot;Al Sharpton type&quot; and I&#039;d explain how unfair that is to distinguish Obama that way rather than just judge him as his own person but by the end I think he got it) and I even got my mom to switch over from Hillary to vote for Barack too. Barack Obama got my dad to cast his first Democratic vote for president ever so I got to vote the same as my dad for the first time ever! And this is not because he just wants to vote against Hillary. He wants Obama to be president over John McCain or anyone the Republicans would run. Barack Obama is changing this country and no matter what happens win or lose this country will be better for Barack Obama&#039;s candidacy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep up the good work on this blog.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all. I have to say as a white girl who grew up in a 99.5 percent white small farm town in the heartland it made me so proud of us in the Midwest and Great Plains for going with the absolute best presidential candidate in Barack Obama and not falling for the Clinton &#8220;experience&#8221; B.S. the way that those in Arkansas and the left coasts did and not getting tripped up by any of the nonsense about Obama&#8217;s church or name.</p><p>What Obama has done is so remarkable though I&#8217;m not sure if the media doesn&#8217;t pay attention to it because they are racist so much as they think us in the fly-over states are rubes who don&#8217;t count for anything so us demanding Obama as the nominee doesn&#8217;t count as much as those in California or Massachusetts choosing Clinton. But I got to tell you as someone who has lived her whole life in middle America what Obama did is pretty amazing.</p><p>While my father never used the n-word the way his father (my grandpa) had, ten years ago my father was still so bad about race he wanted me to promise I would never bring home a black boyfriend (some of my female friends were going with black guys from the bigger town about a half hour away) and this was before I was even dating ANYONE and I was so enraged by that I hated him for years until our relations thawed somewhat when I went to college and we finally started talking about things and understanding each other. Well guess what? Out of the blue a couple months ago my dad, who not surprisingly was a Republican, was talking to me about politics and he informed me that he was thinking about voting for Obama because we just need &#8220;total change.&#8221; He asked me for information about him (although along the way I had to disabuse him of more racist constructs when he would tell me how Obama is not an &#8220;Al Sharpton type&#8221; and I&#8217;d explain how unfair that is to distinguish Obama that way rather than just judge him as his own person but by the end I think he got it) and I even got my mom to switch over from Hillary to vote for Barack too. Barack Obama got my dad to cast his first Democratic vote for president ever so I got to vote the same as my dad for the first time ever! And this is not because he just wants to vote against Hillary. He wants Obama to be president over John McCain or anyone the Republicans would run. Barack Obama is changing this country and no matter what happens win or lose this country will be better for Barack Obama&#8217;s candidacy.</p><p>Keep up the good work on this blog.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3835</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3835</guid> <description>I am still skeptical. As much as I would like to see Obama be the nominee, I don&#039;t think he can do it. He has not won the big blue states other than Illinois. The super-delegates will throw in with Hillary provided they make Obama the&lt;br/&gt;V.P.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Will Obama take the VP slot? Will you vote for the unifying &quot;dream ticket&quot; of Hillary/Obama?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m afraid this will be the real scenario. We&#039;ll be thrown a bone and told to go sit in the corner and chew on it for eight more years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still skeptical. As much as I would like to see Obama be the nominee, I don&#8217;t think he can do it. He has not won the big blue states other than Illinois. The super-delegates will throw in with Hillary provided they make Obama the<br />V.P.</p><p>Will Obama take the VP slot? Will you vote for the unifying &#8220;dream ticket&#8221; of Hillary/Obama?</p><p>I&#8217;m afraid this will be the real scenario. We&#8217;ll be thrown a bone and told to go sit in the corner and chew on it for eight more years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3832</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3832</guid> <description>Native American support is why he may have taken New Mexico.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also think that we will see in Texas, that when he gets to campaign face to face in places like San Antonio and El Paso, he will do surprisingly well with Latinos.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Native American support is why he may have taken New Mexico.</p><p>I also think that we will see in Texas, that when he gets to campaign face to face in places like San Antonio and El Paso, he will do surprisingly well with Latinos.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rachel</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3823</link> <dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3823</guid> <description>after watching Obama absolutely CRUSH in the heartland last night, I don&#039;t think anybody has to be afraid that racism in Middle America will keep him from winning. Racism disguised as &quot;fear of racism&quot; in the Democratic institution, perhaps. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And another demographic nobody is talking about: Native Americans. They were the key to his absolute stomping in Alaska (4-1, overall) and wins in the Southwest and Minnesota.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after watching Obama absolutely CRUSH in the heartland last night, I don&#8217;t think anybody has to be afraid that racism in Middle America will keep him from winning. Racism disguised as &#8220;fear of racism&#8221; in the Democratic institution, perhaps.</p><p>And another demographic nobody is talking about: Native Americans. They were the key to his absolute stomping in Alaska (4-1, overall) and wins in the Southwest and Minnesota.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Blkberi</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3818</link> <dc:creator>Blkberi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3818</guid> <description>What do you guys think about Hillary accepting an invite to debate on Fox News?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you guys think about Hillary accepting an invite to debate on Fox News?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Angela</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3817</link> <dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3817</guid> <description>Idaho is the 2nd most white state in the country and he won by +62%.   I volunteered in Huntsville, Alabama and met a few locals (white) and it was their teenage and college kids who turned them onto Sen. Obama.  I&#039;m hearing things like that more and more.   It is amazing how so many of us are driving to other states to volunteer.  I&#039;m trying to decide where I go next.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idaho is the 2nd most white state in the country and he won by +62%.   I volunteered in Huntsville, Alabama and met a few locals (white) and it was their teenage and college kids who turned them onto Sen. Obama.  I&#8217;m hearing things like that more and more.   It is amazing how so many of us are driving to other states to volunteer.  I&#8217;m trying to decide where I go next.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SquarePeg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3815</link> <dc:creator>SquarePeg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3815</guid> <description>They are Progressives only as long as Blacks stay in their assigned place--to be used at the correct time, and then hustled back into irrelevance until needed again.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe these people need to check themselves to determine what they really think the word Progressive really means.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wow.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are Progressives only as long as Blacks stay in their assigned place&#8211;to be used at the correct time, and then hustled back into irrelevance until needed again.</p><p>Maybe these people need to check themselves to determine what they really think the word Progressive really means.</p><p>Wow.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JJ</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3814</link> <dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3814</guid> <description>JHD...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What are you smoking?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Cause it&#039;s a pretty powerful hallucinogen.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JHD&#8230;</p><p>What are you smoking?</p><p>&#8220;Cause it&#8217;s a pretty powerful hallucinogen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JJ</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3813</link> <dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3813</guid> <description>Above should read Illinois and Georgia...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above should read Illinois and Georgia&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronnie B</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3811</link> <dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3811</guid> <description>What flavor Kool-Aid is that?  The least the Klintons could do is make sure it&#039;s red.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What flavor Kool-Aid is that?  The least the Klintons could do is make sure it&#8217;s red.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JHD</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3809</link> <dc:creator>JHD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3809</guid> <description>She won 11 Million votes to his 7; she won the states Dems have to win in November and looks very string in FLA (over 1 million votes with out campaigning and more then McCain received)and Ohio is well positioned for her on the March 5th.  And for the record; the press is at it low point now with its love fest with Obama and is not serving anyone by painting such a slanted picture through this entire process.  And with respect to Kennedy he didn;t seem to help (poll numbers for 4 or 6 months ago are meaningless) and couldn&#039;t pull in his own states, the south west or southern California.  Obama is a man of hope with a message of hope and that is a key corner stone of our party and vital to the present and future of our party but this is about winning the national election and getting our agenda on the table and accomplished and she covered the key states on the board last night and clearly won the popular vote.  One can pull a page out of George Bush&#039;s play book and say he won more delegates but 11 to 7 miliion in the popular vote say a lot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She won 11 Million votes to his 7; she won the states Dems have to win in November and looks very string in FLA (over 1 million votes with out campaigning and more then McCain received)and Ohio is well positioned for her on the March 5th.  And for the record; the press is at it low point now with its love fest with Obama and is not serving anyone by painting such a slanted picture through this entire process.  And with respect to Kennedy he didn;t seem to help (poll numbers for 4 or 6 months ago are meaningless) and couldn&#8217;t pull in his own states, the south west or southern California.  Obama is a man of hope with a message of hope and that is a key corner stone of our party and vital to the present and future of our party but this is about winning the national election and getting our agenda on the table and accomplished and she covered the key states on the board last night and clearly won the popular vote.  One can pull a page out of George Bush&#8217;s play book and say he won more delegates but 11 to 7 miliion in the popular vote say a lot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NMP</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3808</link> <dc:creator>NMP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3808</guid> <description>I also wanted to come back and note the following:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He won more states and more delegates (excluding super delegates).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Senator Clinton only exceeded 60%in one state, TN,while Senator Obama exceeded 60% in at least six states.  Senator Obama did NOT lose any state that he was expected to win, but he did pick up states, namely CT.  In fact, he was still polling behind her in AL up until yesterday.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And I can NOT say it enough times that she didn&#039;t crack 60% in her own state.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think it&#039;s insignificant that Senator Obama made history yesterday by becoming the first African American to win state-wide in several states, including MO.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, he made considerable gains among White men and women, solidified his base, made slight in roads with Latinos, but she only held her base.  But yet she has the &quot;edge&quot; according to the media. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This BS is unbelievable!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wanted to come back and note the following:</p><p>He won more states and more delegates (excluding super delegates).</p><p>Senator Clinton only exceeded 60%in one state, TN,while Senator Obama exceeded 60% in at least six states.  Senator Obama did NOT lose any state that he was expected to win, but he did pick up states, namely CT.  In fact, he was still polling behind her in AL up until yesterday.</p><p>And I can NOT say it enough times that she didn&#8217;t crack 60% in her own state.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s insignificant that Senator Obama made history yesterday by becoming the first African American to win state-wide in several states, including MO.</p><p>Also, he made considerable gains among White men and women, solidified his base, made slight in roads with Latinos, but she only held her base.  But yet she has the &#8220;edge&#8221; according to the media.</p><p>This BS is unbelievable!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: michelle</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3807</link> <dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3807</guid> <description>I think most people understand that last night was massive for Obama.  What the Clintons don&#039;t want to highlight is all those states like MO, KS, ID, ND, etc broke BIG for Obama.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If he can win those states, then his chances in a national election are tremendous.  Clinton hung on to the big party machine states, working class whites who always vote against their interests, and some of these female folks that believe &quot;it&#039;s their &#039;turn&#039;.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That said I want to give a shout out to all the people who voted AGAINST allowing the Clintons to do them greasy.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Especially my people in Georgia and Alabama and my &quot;new&quot; people in Idaho, North Dakota, Alaska, Kansas, Minnesota, and Colorado. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for not jumping in the Clinton trickbag.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people understand that last night was massive for Obama.  What the Clintons don&#8217;t want to highlight is all those states like MO, KS, ID, ND, etc broke BIG for Obama.</p><p>If he can win those states, then his chances in a national election are tremendous.  Clinton hung on to the big party machine states, working class whites who always vote against their interests, and some of these female folks that believe &#8220;it&#8217;s their &#8216;turn&#8217;.&#8221;</p><p>That said I want to give a shout out to all the people who voted AGAINST allowing the Clintons to do them greasy.</p><p>Especially my people in Georgia and Alabama and my &#8220;new&#8221; people in Idaho, North Dakota, Alaska, Kansas, Minnesota, and Colorado.</p><p>Thanks for not jumping in the Clinton trickbag.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jon</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3806</link> <dc:creator>jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3806</guid> <description>(cross-posted from Mirror on America)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well said.  This was a huge victory for Obama, taking Missouri, overcoming double-digit leads in Delaware and Connecticut, consistently outperforming polls in the South, romping in Alabama, Colorado, and Minnesota -- and almost certainly winning the delegate count.  Okay, California was a disappointment (especially since one outlier poll had Obama way head), but still.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And yeah, it is up to us.  I think it&#039;s possible to intervene here to change the narrative.  Late last night I found a post on a well-respected political blog that said &quot;Clinton won all the battleground states&quot;.  I replied saying &quot;I don&#039;t understand how you can say this,&quot; and rattled off some of the above facts.  Not sure whether it was my post or not, but when I went back to check the page, the author had changed things significantly to “Obama did not win so many of the batteground states. But his was still a remarkable list of victories.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One thing I would add is that as well as the blogging community we should involve the people on Facebook.  There are a couple of huge groups there -- 380,000 on the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/barackobama&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barack Obama page&lt;/a&gt;, 450,000 in the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2231653698&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;One Million Strong for Barack group&lt;/a&gt; -- and there are some really committed people.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s not easy doing activism on Facebook: I kept getting shut down as a spammer, and heard from several others who the same thing was happening to.  Still we&#039;re working out the techniques and communication channels.  Unusually, the discussion board is visible even outside the walled garden of Facebook -- it&#039;s worth checking out threads like &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=6815841748&amp;topic=4539&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama really won tonight&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt; I suspect that the Democratic establishment will steal the election from Obama by shifting Super Delegates to Clinton, no matter what happens in the Primaries.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It will be up to us to keep this from happening.  I think we have a chance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(cross-posted from Mirror on America)</p><p>Well said.  This was a huge victory for Obama, taking Missouri, overcoming double-digit leads in Delaware and Connecticut, consistently outperforming polls in the South, romping in Alabama, Colorado, and Minnesota &#8212; and almost certainly winning the delegate count.  Okay, California was a disappointment (especially since one outlier poll had Obama way head), but still.</p><p>And yeah, it is up to us.  I think it&#8217;s possible to intervene here to change the narrative.  Late last night I found a post on a well-respected political blog that said &#8220;Clinton won all the battleground states&#8221;.  I replied saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand how you can say this,&#8221; and rattled off some of the above facts.  Not sure whether it was my post or not, but when I went back to check the page, the author had changed things significantly to “Obama did not win so many of the batteground states. But his was still a remarkable list of victories.”</p><p>One thing I would add is that as well as the blogging community we should involve the people on Facebook.  There are a couple of huge groups there &#8212; 380,000 on the <a HREF="http://www.facebook.com/barackobama" REL="nofollow">Barack Obama page</a>, 450,000 in the <a HREF="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2231653698" REL="nofollow">One Million Strong for Barack group</a> &#8212; and there are some really committed people.</p><p>It&#8217;s not easy doing activism on Facebook: I kept getting shut down as a spammer, and heard from several others who the same thing was happening to.  Still we&#8217;re working out the techniques and communication channels.  Unusually, the discussion board is visible even outside the walled garden of Facebook &#8212; it&#8217;s worth checking out threads like <a HREF="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=6815841748&#038;topic=4539" REL="nofollow">Obama really won tonight</a>.</p><p>> I suspect that the Democratic establishment will steal the election from Obama by shifting Super Delegates to Clinton, no matter what happens in the Primaries.</p><p>It will be up to us to keep this from happening.  I think we have a chance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SquarePeg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3805</link> <dc:creator>SquarePeg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3805</guid> <description>Did anyone mention that Obama won several races with more votes than several of the Republican candidates combined?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is a good sign for the upcoming November elections.  I was a skeptic regarding Obama because I liked John Edwards message regarding the disenfranchisement of poor people and the left out, but the only way I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton is if she is THE candidate.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the results are encouraging and has even my two grown sons talking about this election, something that has never happened before!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone mention that Obama won several races with more votes than several of the Republican candidates combined?</p><p>This is a good sign for the upcoming November elections.  I was a skeptic regarding Obama because I liked John Edwards message regarding the disenfranchisement of poor people and the left out, but the only way I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton is if she is THE candidate.</p><p>But the results are encouraging and has even my two grown sons talking about this election, something that has never happened before!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NMP</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3801</link> <dc:creator>NMP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:27:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3801</guid> <description>What the media won&#039;t highlight:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1/3 of votes had already been cast in CA prior to Tuesday, which favored Senator Clinton.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Senator Obama one among all demographics except Latinos and Asians but including Jews on Tuesday only voting at precincts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Senator Clinton did NOT break 60% in her home state.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She won ONLY states she was SUPPOSED to win and by less than the margin she was polling.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But of course none of that matters to the media who will not give Senator Obama credit for anything!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the media won&#8217;t highlight:</p><p>1/3 of votes had already been cast in CA prior to Tuesday, which favored Senator Clinton.</p><p>Senator Obama one among all demographics except Latinos and Asians but including Jews on Tuesday only voting at precincts.</p><p>Senator Clinton did NOT break 60% in her home state.</p><p>She won ONLY states she was SUPPOSED to win and by less than the margin she was polling.</p><p>But of course none of that matters to the media who will not give Senator Obama credit for anything!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JJ</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3800</link> <dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3800</guid> <description>Okay so I&#039;m not the only one who thought the MSM had lost their mind.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve got the poll numbers from abot a week ago.  The man was down in every state but Illinois and New York.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A week ago Clinton&#039;s camp said they thought they would have this in the bag tonight.  The nom would be sown up.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Super Tuesday the Obama camp was saying they would declare tonight a victory if they got within 60 - 100 delegates of Clinton.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How is this a win for Clinton?  How is this NOT a huge victory for Barack Obama?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh and you should see the venom being spewed on many of the &quot;progressive&quot; blogs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They can&#039;t stand it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m pissed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so I&#8217;m not the only one who thought the MSM had lost their mind.</p><p>I&#8217;ve got the poll numbers from abot a week ago.  The man was down in every state but Illinois and New York.</p><p>A week ago Clinton&#8217;s camp said they thought they would have this in the bag tonight.  The nom would be sown up.</p><p>Super Tuesday the Obama camp was saying they would declare tonight a victory if they got within 60 &#8211; 100 delegates of Clinton.</p><p>How is this a win for Clinton?  How is this NOT a huge victory for Barack Obama?</p><p>Oh and you should see the venom being spewed on many of the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogs.</p><p>They can&#8217;t stand it.</p><p>I&#8217;m pissed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kara</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3799</link> <dc:creator>Kara</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3799</guid> <description>One more thing-- Obama won big today, he passed the toughest test of this campaign, and now it&#039;s crucial to activate our killer instinct and destroy the Clintons.  Oh, I&#039;m sorry, maybe that would be Bill and Hillary KKKlinton.  Sounds a lot more appropriate.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s contribute heavily to Obama&#039;s campaign now, contribute donations, contribute our volunteering.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As someone said, the Clintons basically consider us Black people to be cockroaches fit to be ignored.  Well, in fact, we&#039;re very hungry cockroaches, and we&#039;ll be devouring and feasting on the nice, pink flesh of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.  Now is the time to destroy them, and to hit them very hard!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing&#8211; Obama won big today, he passed the toughest test of this campaign, and now it&#8217;s crucial to activate our killer instinct and destroy the Clintons.  Oh, I&#8217;m sorry, maybe that would be Bill and Hillary KKKlinton.  Sounds a lot more appropriate.</p><p>Let&#8217;s contribute heavily to Obama&#8217;s campaign now, contribute donations, contribute our volunteering.</p><p>As someone said, the Clintons basically consider us Black people to be cockroaches fit to be ignored.  Well, in fact, we&#8217;re very hungry cockroaches, and we&#8217;ll be devouring and feasting on the nice, pink flesh of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.  Now is the time to destroy them, and to hit them very hard!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kara</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/02/a-skeptic-sees-some-obama-light/comment-page-1/#comment-3798</link> <dc:creator>Kara</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=798#comment-3798</guid> <description>Rikyrah, I tell you I am getting sick of the way the RACIST PRESS keeps trying to spin this DISASTER for Hillary Clinton into a victory for her against Obama.  My favorite bullshit memes, that we need to hit:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1. Ted Kennedy&#039;s endorsement did nothing b/c Obama lost Massachusetts.  Bullshit-- he was 30 points behind before, he brought it close to 10% and won lots of delegates.  Same in California-- early voters there broke for Clinton, but the Kennedy endorsement helped Obama.  Kennedy did help Obama win in Connecticut.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2. Hillary won because she stopped Obama&#039;s momentum.  BULLSHIT.  Hillary was supposed to win this day by double digits-- that&#039;s where the polls had her before.  Especially with all her name recognition and institutional support, that&#039;s where she was pegged.  Instead, Obama won a big majority of states and, it looks now, more delegates than Hillary too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3. I love how, when the media tabulates up delegates, they use this bullshit of counting the UNELECTED superdelegates for Clinton (and how are free to make a choice in any direction), rather than considering the pledged delegates that have actually been clearly won or lost.  Among pledged delegates, Obama has won far more than Hillary has.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;4. Obama &quot;can&#039;t win Latinos.&quot;  Again-- bullshit.  Part of the reason for the &quot;Latino gap&quot; is Hillary&#039;s big Latino advantage in her two &quot;home states&quot; of New York and New Jersey, not to mention in Arkansas!  But in the Southwest, Obama got a big share, perhaps up to 40% or more, of the Latinos in California who voted on Feb. 5th. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Many people in Cali voted via early ballots, and this was before Obama got the Ted Kennedy endorsement and the one from La Opinion, the big Spanish-language newspaper.  Obama also got big support from Latinos in Arizona among other places.  And Obama won Colorado with Latino support.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;5. The foreign press is terrible.  The assholes who write the British papers at least for a while, were declaring Hillary the out-and-out winner (apparently copying a dipshit headline from Yahoo).  My friend in Manchester says this has changed recently, but it just shows how much the media in White countries like this hate Black people and hate Obama.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll say it again, because now it&#039;s clearly in evidence-- the mainstream media has been showing an ugly racist streak by taking what was obviously about a draw, and in actual fact a narrow victory (in terms of states and possibly in delegates), for Obama, and trying to declare it a win for Hillary.  While failing to mention that Hillary was an almost prohibitive favorite before, and she had her big &quot;home states&quot; of New York, New Jersey, Arkansas and Tennessee helping her out here!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They were even calling Missouri for Clinton-- a state that Obama won instead!  Who knows what effect this would have had for voters in Western states?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We need to be tough about this, because the media organizations respond ultimately to MONEY.  Any news organization that demonstrates such racist coverage and distortion of the news against Obama-- Newsweek has been among the worst-- we need to BOYCOTT en masse.  Cancel your subscriptions, refuse to buy those newspapers or watch their news, write letters and provide other forms of feedback to make it clear that we Black people WILL NOT TOLERATE such obviously racist coverage against Obama and against our people.  They will feel a financial pinch, and the reporters who write or discuss in such racist terms will be out of work looking for a job as a result!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rikyrah, I tell you I am getting sick of the way the RACIST PRESS keeps trying to spin this DISASTER for Hillary Clinton into a victory for her against Obama.  My favorite bullshit memes, that we need to hit:</p><p>1. Ted Kennedy&#8217;s endorsement did nothing b/c Obama lost Massachusetts.  Bullshit&#8211; he was 30 points behind before, he brought it close to 10% and won lots of delegates.  Same in California&#8211; early voters there broke for Clinton, but the Kennedy endorsement helped Obama.  Kennedy did help Obama win in Connecticut.</p><p>2. Hillary won because she stopped Obama&#8217;s momentum.  BULLSHIT.  Hillary was supposed to win this day by double digits&#8211; that&#8217;s where the polls had her before.  Especially with all her name recognition and institutional support, that&#8217;s where she was pegged.  Instead, Obama won a big majority of states and, it looks now, more delegates than Hillary too.</p><p>3. I love how, when the media tabulates up delegates, they use this bullshit of counting the UNELECTED superdelegates for Clinton (and how are free to make a choice in any direction), rather than considering the pledged delegates that have actually been clearly won or lost.  Among pledged delegates, Obama has won far more than Hillary has.</p><p>4. Obama &#8220;can&#8217;t win Latinos.&#8221;  Again&#8211; bullshit.  Part of the reason for the &#8220;Latino gap&#8221; is Hillary&#8217;s big Latino advantage in her two &#8220;home states&#8221; of New York and New Jersey, not to mention in Arkansas!  But in the Southwest, Obama got a big share, perhaps up to 40% or more, of the Latinos in California who voted on Feb. 5th.</p><p>Many people in Cali voted via early ballots, and this was before Obama got the Ted Kennedy endorsement and the one from La Opinion, the big Spanish-language newspaper.  Obama also got big support from Latinos in Arizona among other places.  And Obama won Colorado with Latino support.</p><p>5. The foreign press is terrible.  The assholes who write the British papers at least for a while, were declaring Hillary the out-and-out winner (apparently copying a dipshit headline from Yahoo).  My friend in Manchester says this has changed recently, but it just shows how much the media in White countries like this hate Black people and hate Obama.</p><p>I&#8217;ll say it again, because now it&#8217;s clearly in evidence&#8211; the mainstream media has been showing an ugly racist streak by taking what was obviously about a draw, and in actual fact a narrow victory (in terms of states and possibly in delegates), for Obama, and trying to declare it a win for Hillary.  While failing to mention that Hillary was an almost prohibitive favorite before, and she had her big &#8220;home states&#8221; of New York, New Jersey, Arkansas and Tennessee helping her out here!</p><p>They were even calling Missouri for Clinton&#8211; a state that Obama won instead!  Who knows what effect this would have had for voters in Western states?</p><p>We need to be tough about this, because the media organizations respond ultimately to MONEY.  Any news organization that demonstrates such racist coverage and distortion of the news against Obama&#8211; Newsweek has been among the worst&#8211; we need to BOYCOTT en masse.  Cancel your subscriptions, refuse to buy those newspapers or watch their news, write letters and provide other forms of feedback to make it clear that we Black people WILL NOT TOLERATE such obviously racist coverage against Obama and against our people.  They will feel a financial pinch, and the reporters who write or discuss in such racist terms will be out of work looking for a job as a result!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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