<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: The Double Standard Against Barack Obama&#8217;s Church</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:32:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-4326</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-4326</guid> <description>I don&#039;t think it is fair to say that it is desperate or stupid to be concerned about the beliefs of Rev. Wright. Senator Obama has stated publicly that he considers Rev. Wright to be his moral compass or sounding board. Given that Senator Obama has also argued that he has the best judgment of all the candidates, I think Obama has opened himself up to inquiries regarding his relationship with his spiritual adviser. Obviously, it is wrong to assume that the two men share the same beliefs. On the other hand, if the Reverend is anti-semitic, as some sources have said (on account of his ties to Louis Farrakhan and as some quotations seem to suggest), then why wouldn&#039;t a man of sound judgment, as Obama claims to be, come out and denounce anti-semitism? I realize people become very sensitive about playing the &quot;anti-semitism card&quot; just as much as about playing the &quot;race card&quot; - those kinds of accusations are so charged that they unfortunately invite people to use them irresponsibly to tarnish a person&#039;s image or to engage in emotional blackmail. But, if Obama is to be a truly national candidate, what is the harm in publicly denouncing anti-semitism (in general)and criticizing his Reverend (if, in fact, his Reverend said anti-semitic statements)? Back in the 1960s, during the Civil Rights movement, African-Americans and Jews fought side by side. It&#039;s too bad that the communities no longer share a common purpose. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, on a different note, I think that compared to former candidate Mitt Romney (a Mormon), Obama&#039;s religious affiliations have received FAR less scrutiny by the press.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is fair to say that it is desperate or stupid to be concerned about the beliefs of Rev. Wright. Senator Obama has stated publicly that he considers Rev. Wright to be his moral compass or sounding board. Given that Senator Obama has also argued that he has the best judgment of all the candidates, I think Obama has opened himself up to inquiries regarding his relationship with his spiritual adviser. Obviously, it is wrong to assume that the two men share the same beliefs. On the other hand, if the Reverend is anti-semitic, as some sources have said (on account of his ties to Louis Farrakhan and as some quotations seem to suggest), then why wouldn&#8217;t a man of sound judgment, as Obama claims to be, come out and denounce anti-semitism? I realize people become very sensitive about playing the &#8220;anti-semitism card&#8221; just as much as about playing the &#8220;race card&#8221; &#8211; those kinds of accusations are so charged that they unfortunately invite people to use them irresponsibly to tarnish a person&#8217;s image or to engage in emotional blackmail. But, if Obama is to be a truly national candidate, what is the harm in publicly denouncing anti-semitism (in general)and criticizing his Reverend (if, in fact, his Reverend said anti-semitic statements)? Back in the 1960s, during the Civil Rights movement, African-Americans and Jews fought side by side. It&#8217;s too bad that the communities no longer share a common purpose.</p><p>Also, on a different note, I think that compared to former candidate Mitt Romney (a Mormon), Obama&#8217;s religious affiliations have received FAR less scrutiny by the press.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: faboo</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2905</link> <dc:creator>faboo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-2905</guid> <description>LOL...I hadn&#039;t even thought of this viewpoint.  All, I thought was how stupid it was that someone thought that holding the Senator responsible for words his pastor said reeked of desperation and stupidity.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;I hadn&#8217;t even thought of this viewpoint.  All, I thought was how stupid it was that someone thought that holding the Senator responsible for words his pastor said reeked of desperation and stupidity.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Bag of Health and Politics</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2902</link> <dc:creator>The Bag of Health and Politics</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-2902</guid> <description>The Clintons declare a &quot;truce&quot; and then this crap pops up in corporate newspapers like the Investor&#039;s Business Journal. Sure...Despicable tactics from then again, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll only get worse. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t really care about Obama&#039;s church. Hillary doesn&#039;t talk publicly about her faith--which in her Methodist tradition is normal. I don&#039;t care about that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Her husband, would-be co-President Bill Clinton took spiritual advice from Billy Graham, who also gave spiritual advice to both Bushes. I don&#039;t particularly agree with much of what Rev. Graham says, but I didn&#039;t care about that because somebody&#039;s faith is their personal business. Further, just because a pastor says something doesn&#039;t mean Obama actually agrees with it. At the churches I&#039;ve attended--currently not attending one--I disagreed with the Minister, but would still go. The reason: they gave good, thought provoking sermons that made me think. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Likewise, I&#039;m sure that Obama doesn&#039;t agree with all of the Rev. Wright&#039;s proclamations. A preacher is not God; a preacher is human; and a preacher can be wrong on somethings, or even (like Pat Robertson) most of the time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the end, it&#039;s not Rev. Wright that&#039;s on the ballot. It&#039;s Barack Obama that&#039;s on the ballot. Barack Obama didn&#039;t say what Rev. Wright said in his sermon. And, therefore, I don&#039;t much care about what was said in Rev. Wright&#039;s sermon. I don&#039;t attend his church. I&#039;m sure he provides good moral counseling to members of his church, who are free to regard or disregard his advice. The choice of a spiritual adviser is personal. I don&#039;t care who Barack Obama&#039;s pastor is. Period.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Clintons declare a &#8220;truce&#8221; and then this crap pops up in corporate newspapers like the Investor&#8217;s Business Journal. Sure&#8230;Despicable tactics from then again, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll only get worse.</p><p>I don&#8217;t really care about Obama&#8217;s church. Hillary doesn&#8217;t talk publicly about her faith&#8211;which in her Methodist tradition is normal. I don&#8217;t care about that.</p><p>Her husband, would-be co-President Bill Clinton took spiritual advice from Billy Graham, who also gave spiritual advice to both Bushes. I don&#8217;t particularly agree with much of what Rev. Graham says, but I didn&#8217;t care about that because somebody&#8217;s faith is their personal business. Further, just because a pastor says something doesn&#8217;t mean Obama actually agrees with it. At the churches I&#8217;ve attended&#8211;currently not attending one&#8211;I disagreed with the Minister, but would still go. The reason: they gave good, thought provoking sermons that made me think.</p><p>Likewise, I&#8217;m sure that Obama doesn&#8217;t agree with all of the Rev. Wright&#8217;s proclamations. A preacher is not God; a preacher is human; and a preacher can be wrong on somethings, or even (like Pat Robertson) most of the time.</p><p>In the end, it&#8217;s not Rev. Wright that&#8217;s on the ballot. It&#8217;s Barack Obama that&#8217;s on the ballot. Barack Obama didn&#8217;t say what Rev. Wright said in his sermon. And, therefore, I don&#8217;t much care about what was said in Rev. Wright&#8217;s sermon. I don&#8217;t attend his church. I&#8217;m sure he provides good moral counseling to members of his church, who are free to regard or disregard his advice. The choice of a spiritual adviser is personal. I don&#8217;t care who Barack Obama&#8217;s pastor is. Period.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dnA</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2901</link> <dc:creator>dnA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-2901</guid> <description>I actually think Obama may have discouraged anyone from speaking out on his behalf, since that might just have increased the backlash against Obama for allegedly &quot;playing the race card&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think Obama may have discouraged anyone from speaking out on his behalf, since that might just have increased the backlash against Obama for allegedly &#8220;playing the race card&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2899</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-2899</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;The heads of the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other prominent Jewish organizations have circulated an open letter absolutely condemning the smears, before they might influence too many Jewish voters &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Isn&#039;t it ironic that prominent Jewish leaders can defend Obama but no black organization has come out to defend Obama against all of the &quot;drug dealer&quot; &quot;madrassa&quot; &quot;shuck &amp; jive&quot; nonsense...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hmmm.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The heads of the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other prominent Jewish organizations have circulated an open letter absolutely condemning the smears, before they might influence too many Jewish voters </b></p><p>Isn&#8217;t it ironic that prominent Jewish leaders can defend Obama but no black organization has come out to defend Obama against all of the &#8220;drug dealer&#8221; &#8220;madrassa&#8221; &#8220;shuck &#038; jive&#8221; nonsense&#8230;</p><p>Hmmm&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2889</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-2889</guid> <description>Jewish Leaders Denounce Anti-Obama E-Mails&lt;br/&gt;By Eric Kleefeld - January 16, 2008, 9:31AM&lt;br/&gt;The online smear campaign against Barack Obama has now attracted attention from some prominent Jewish leaders. The heads of the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other prominent Jewish organizations have circulated an open letter absolutely condemning the smears, before they might influence too many Jewish voters&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;These tactics attempt to drive a wedge between our community and a presidential candidate based on despicable and false attacks and innuendo based on religion,&quot; the letter says. &quot;We reject these efforts to manipulate members of our community into supporting or opposing candidates.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The full text of the letter is available after the jump.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;January 15, 2008 &lt;br/&gt;An Open Letter to the Jewish Community: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As leaders of the Jewish community, none of whose organizations will endorse or oppose any candidate for President, we feel compelled to speak out against certain rhetoric and tactics in the current campaign that we find particularly abhorrent. Of particular concern, over the past several weeks, many in our community have received hateful emails that use falsehood and innuendo to mischaracterize Senator Barack Obama’s religious beliefs and who he is as a person. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These tactics attempt to drive a wedge between our community and a presidential candidate based on despicable and false attacks and innuendo based on religion. We reject these efforts to manipulate members of our community into supporting or opposing candidates.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Attempts of this sort to mislead and inflame voters should not be part of our political discourse and should be rebuffed by all who believe in our democracy. Jewish voters, like all voters, should support whichever candidate they believe would make the best president. We urge everyone to make that decision based on the factual records of these candidates, and nothing less.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sincerely,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder and Dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;William Daroff, Vice President, United Jewish Communities&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nathan J. Diament, Director, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Abraham Foxman, National Director, Anti-Defamation League&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Richard S. Gordon, President, American Jewish Congress&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;David Harris, Executive Director, American Jewish Committee&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rabbi David Saperstein, Director, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Phyllis Snyder, President, National Council of Jewish Women&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hadar Susskind, Washington Director, Jewish Council for Public Affairs</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewish Leaders Denounce Anti-Obama E-Mails<br />By Eric Kleefeld &#8211; January 16, 2008, 9:31AM<br />The online smear campaign against Barack Obama has now attracted attention from some prominent Jewish leaders. The heads of the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other prominent Jewish organizations have circulated an open letter absolutely condemning the smears, before they might influence too many Jewish voters</p><p>&#8220;These tactics attempt to drive a wedge between our community and a presidential candidate based on despicable and false attacks and innuendo based on religion,&#8221; the letter says. &#8220;We reject these efforts to manipulate members of our community into supporting or opposing candidates.&#8221;</p><p>The full text of the letter is available after the jump.</p><p>January 15, 2008 <br />An Open Letter to the Jewish Community:</p><p>As leaders of the Jewish community, none of whose organizations will endorse or oppose any candidate for President, we feel compelled to speak out against certain rhetoric and tactics in the current campaign that we find particularly abhorrent. Of particular concern, over the past several weeks, many in our community have received hateful emails that use falsehood and innuendo to mischaracterize Senator Barack Obama’s religious beliefs and who he is as a person.</p><p>These tactics attempt to drive a wedge between our community and a presidential candidate based on despicable and false attacks and innuendo based on religion. We reject these efforts to manipulate members of our community into supporting or opposing candidates.</p><p>Attempts of this sort to mislead and inflame voters should not be part of our political discourse and should be rebuffed by all who believe in our democracy. Jewish voters, like all voters, should support whichever candidate they believe would make the best president. We urge everyone to make that decision based on the factual records of these candidates, and nothing less.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder and Dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center</p><p>Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center</p><p>William Daroff, Vice President, United Jewish Communities</p><p>Nathan J. Diament, Director, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America</p><p>Abraham Foxman, National Director, Anti-Defamation League</p><p>Richard S. Gordon, President, American Jewish Congress</p><p>David Harris, Executive Director, American Jewish Committee</p><p>Rabbi David Saperstein, Director, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism</p><p>Phyllis Snyder, President, National Council of Jewish Women</p><p>Hadar Susskind, Washington Director, Jewish Council for Public Affairs</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/the-double-standard-against-barack-obamas-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2885</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=729#comment-2885</guid> <description>I sent a copy of this thoughtful rebuttal to Sean Hannity because this is one conservative who wants to change the perception that all Republicans are racist.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent a copy of this thoughtful rebuttal to Sean Hannity because this is one conservative who wants to change the perception that all Republicans are racist.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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