awww, i feel you too dawg, but you not getting my bud light.

seriously. nice to leave this on a positive tip. i’m off!

i think you’ve explained yourself enough on the issue. thanks for having a go at it one more time.

believe it or not, i feel you.

I think that the uniformed services present in down state South Carolina create at least a black working class, if not a black middle class. And I also think that uniformed service personnel (I live close to a base) are paying extremely close attention to this election.

“House Negroes, um no, we’re not stuck in some sort of 1940s time warp around here.”

The source also noted the black establishment down state. Retired business people, military officers, etc., in Hilton Head. And said that the down state community is economically diverse.

Again, even giving the appearance of attacking people that you want to be part of a campaign is just bad strategy. Afterwards do whatever you want, but Obama hasn’t lost yet. I’m just noting it’s extraordinarily bad strategy to bash the most crucial group of swing voters–and yes blacks are the swing voters in this election. For the first time in my life (I’m 28), blacks are the ones with the political power. That alone is amazing.

in the meantime. some quick reactions cause i’m late for my show!

- I think NH will be good for O and for the nation that was swept into somehow thinking this BLACK MAN became inevitable overnight. better for this to happen now, early in the process

- Yall are right about how crucial SC and black folks are. I want a call to arms for black travelers, phonebankers and freedom riders to spread the word

@ProblemWithCaring, we agree so much when you wrote about how this is now an officially competitive campaign.

as for the title of my post, yes i love hip hop, even stuff that ain’t saying much. I’m still a human being who likes a beat, a hook and a party. Our last hip hop exchange on this blog was way too long and I still didn’t get my point across clearly if you think i hate all rap lyrics. I can love rap and hip hop and still find flavors of it damaging to my people. Anyway, glad we’re on the same page on this post.

ok fam, i am overwhelmed at the community we have here. gotta roll now.

peace. and stay tuned. cause IT’S ON!!!

I know it sounds like I’m attacking those of us in SC, but what I’m saying it true. And yes, those “uneducated” folk may have some kind of diploma, but with no degree, it is more likely that they aren’t paying attention to the details of this race and it is more likely that they don’t even UNDERSTAND the details of this race. Now, I’d lived in SC for years, and I don’t know anything about this diverse group of black folk with money your friend told you about. That’s simply not true. I live in Charleston, the hub of black success in SC, and that’s barely upper middle class for the most part.

People need to understand, folks that are gonna be voting in the SC primary looooove them some Bill Clinton. These are folks who still buy into that “First Black President” bullcrap. These are folks who don’t watch Charlie Rose and don’t know Bill all but called brotha Barack a “boy” while his neck turned red from the jealousy and hatred coarsing through his body. These folks don’t watch the news if it ain’t local and don’t know about the racial smear job the Clintons did on Obama in New Hampshire last month. They still see Bill Clinton as many black folks did on the day he was elected. Happy and completely satisfied to be thrown a bone by a white president. It doesn’t matter one bit what he did or didn’t do for black americans. All that matters to black folks with low self esteem, is to be appreciated by whites, patted on the head. Bill Clinton has patted them on the head and they loved it. And i truly believe, if it comes down to make or break for SC to solidify a Feb. 5 sweep, I’m telling you, don’t be suprised if they hand the nomination to Hillary.

I’m not trying to talk down about my own, but y’all need to be realistic and understand that we are not talking about black folks in Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, NYC, or any other metro area with millions of educated and informed and influential black folks who can’t be woowed by a mammny accent and a saxophone solo.

I know it sounds harsh, but it’s true. When it comes to black folk in SC, do not underestimate the love for Bill Clinton and the ingnorance of the electorate.

Those of us in the know need to get down there now and inform folks, or I’m telling you, Billary will indeed take SC.

Since the slave mentality is in effect, what should we, those of us outside of SC, do to bring our uninformed brethren in South Carolina out of their blind-faith devotion to the Clintons. What should we do? Should we submit commentaries to newspapers about the problem of blind loyalty of blacks to the Clintons? Should the black bloggers, who are tired of Clintons’ use of black voters, unite and devote their blogs to address every attack from Clinton camp against Obama (basically become an informal attack team for Obama)? Remember how Kerry failed to launch any counterattacks against the Swift Boat veterans? We must not allow Obama to be swiftboated by the Clintons. Should every black blogger take every famous black Clinton supporter (like Magic Johnson and Andrew Young), who will be paraded throughout SC on the orders of the Clintons, to task for their opposition to Obama.

My source described the low country as having these demographics the retired high ranking military officers, established black wealth, and black retirees that moved to Hilton Head…but also the people that clean the hotels and wait tables. In short, it’s a relatively diverse socioeconomic population there.

Further, I’ll note that many people described as “uneducated” here have high school diplomas, work regular middle class jobs, etc. Even among the people who were poorly educated and may only be slightly literate, the kind of nonsense found on this thread doesn’t do anything to help. Those of us that support Obama want undereducated blacks to vote for him. Attacking a group that you want to vote for you is always bad campaign strategy.

Thanks for the compliment about the slaying the dragon with a smile line; the dragon is multi-faceted and incarnates cynicism, despair, and fear of the unknown. An optimistic smile helps with that too. That’s why we all must smile and stop blaming people before its lost. Barack’s right–yes we can. But we only can if we believe, and if we project that belief to others. I plan on smiling a lot over the next 4 weeks. I hope you will join me in doing so.

But hey, speaking of saying what you really mean:

How about more “actually admitting to a conflict over your love for a popular music that crosses traditional lines of good taste, rather than simply trashing it on its PMRC-stamped face.”

Like Barack did.

Yet, dont be fooled. Barack faces the same trials of “intellectuall liberation” in the ghettos of Los Angeles, the backwaters of Appalachia, and the subburbs of Scotsdale as he has on the college campuses.

His campaign doesn’t have a race prolem. This isn’t a race issue. America needs to reject the myth promulgated by the white, liberal machine, not just black folks.

Another great point. I think any Black Obama volunteers have to be careful about that when talking to the voters

Excellent point. I think it’s safe to say that they’re not reading blogs like Jack and Jill either – if they even know how to use email.

I think phone calls from relatable black volunteers (they will be able to tell over the phone) and visits by black volunteers will be crucial.

I’m telling y’all, DO NOT think that, if it comes down to SC, that black people will go for Barack. Y’all are crazy and don’t understand just how uneducated we are in SC. I’m dead serious. I’ve lived in SC and have seen the mentality up close. These are the people who get happy in church when the Clintons show up and Hillary puts on her mammy accent. They love it. They eat that stuff up. They don’t want to hear all that intellectual self-empowerment mumbo jumbo Obama is spittin’. That might work in Charleston, but elsewhere, it won’t.

So I’m saying, if you have any way to get to SC or have an impact on educated the black electorate in SC, DO IT. Because if you all think Obama has this wrapped up, even if he wins Nevada, they’ll use their power to pick Clinton in a NY minute, mark my words.

SC is a very beautiful state, but black folks there are not together.Call me a hater if you want, but it’s true.

I’m not saying Obama won’t win SC, but we must not be complacent and realize that because of the mass ignorance of the black electorate there, he could very much lose it. People have to get down there and inform our people, and quick. If you can volunteer, do it. If you can speak to people on the ground or over the phone, do it! But we can’t get caught by suprise because I truly believe, if it’s left to SC and they have a chance to elevate a real brotha or Missy Ann Clinton, massa’s wife, well, they’re gonna chose massa’s wife.

There’s no Atlanta in SC. There’s no big city with a massive amount of educated and informed and influential black folk. Let’s keep this in mind.

You are so right! Obama has to send the message that you can undue what was done in New Hampshire. Black folks have all the power in this election right now!

Or maybe that will be pissed that this was “stolen” from him? I’m not finding many Black women who were sympathetic to her tears. In fact, just the opposite. They see it for the ploy it was.

Mrs. Clinton’s other comments regarding Martin Luther King and Lyndon Baines Johnson was sad and ridiculous at the same time. Her husband, who at one time I voted twice for and had respect for, has lost me with his “the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen” quote. Sadly, this gentleman will go to South Carolina and use his political skills to seduce African American voters who will fall for his shtick like they always will and help his wife win there.

She and her husband will use “plantation politics” (“But Massa Bill and Miz Hillary have been good to us!”) to win in South Carolina.

As for me, I’m taking on the role of extremist, ultra-liberal fanatic for *O*…even if my ideas are not extreme.

Hillary used language such as “false hopes,” “taking the country backwards,” and “some of us are wrong.”

I’d rather have a President with false hopes than no hope at all.

If people were smart about history, they would realize that Hillary flunked on HealthCare ‘93 and Bill caused Democrats to lose the Congress in 1994 (THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS). The only reason Bill won re-election was because the Republicans put up the erectily-dysfunctional Bob Dole against him.

The Clintons set the country on a trajectory that led to George W. Bush…Their arrogance astounds me.

What makes people think that this time will be any different?

After last night, I would bet that there are going to be more hecklers popping up at the Clinton speeches…just watch. Don’t let her come to Atlanta.

…By the way, Shirley Franklin strongly endorsed Obama today in contrast to Misters Young and Lewis.