<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Oreos And House Negroes: The Clinton Strategy Explained</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:11 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: property and casualty training</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-582401</link> <dc:creator>property and casualty training</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:43:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-582401</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Great Site…...&lt;/strong&gt;[...]check this out as this contains important information about[...]...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Great Site…&#8230;</strong></p><p>[...]check this out as this contains important information about[...]&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rosemary</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2879</link> <dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2879</guid> <description>You have written a very well article. If only the world could know, could see. I must watch that movie again, because I remember it as being a, &quot;Take that, you aren&#039;t going to push me around, and you don&#039;t have the right to do so anymore!&quot; I must revisit it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is very sad. I have called his campaign hq whenever I hear of some hint of possible dirt being stated or having been said. I hate that. Why can&#039;t they stick to the issues? Do they have any other than the other party is wrong?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PS. I am a Conservative, but I truly believe you wrote an excellent article. And I do not like people attacking other people, especially when it comes to race, religion, etc. Will we ever find a way to come together? To come alongside one another? This is my prayer. Have a wonderful day.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PSS. I came over through digg. Good day.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have written a very well article. If only the world could know, could see. I must watch that movie again, because I remember it as being a, &#8220;Take that, you aren&#8217;t going to push me around, and you don&#8217;t have the right to do so anymore!&#8221; I must revisit it.</p><p>This is very sad. I have called his campaign hq whenever I hear of some hint of possible dirt being stated or having been said. I hate that. Why can&#8217;t they stick to the issues? Do they have any other than the other party is wrong?</p><p>PS. I am a Conservative, but I truly believe you wrote an excellent article. And I do not like people attacking other people, especially when it comes to race, religion, etc. Will we ever find a way to come together? To come alongside one another? This is my prayer. Have a wonderful day.</p><p>PSS. I came over through digg. Good day.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alyceclover</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2868</link> <dc:creator>alyceclover</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2868</guid> <description>Well, I&#039;m hurt by that comment &quot;it took a president to get it done&quot; especially from former Republican and &quot;Goldwater girl&quot; who was busy working for Goldwater the pro-Jim Crow guy while MLK&#039;s supporters were courageous laying their lives on the line to FORCE LBJ to take action.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To the comment above we, Obama supporters are not over-reacting. I can not speak for all, but I am sick and tired of seeing Hillary attack Barack and white people believing the lying biatch. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She is coldly calculating her moves. She got exactly the reaction she wanted, a quiet &quot;I think you may have offended some people&quot; and nothing more, then has people believing &quot;He played the race card&quot;. She is a bigot, of this I am now sure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Even black people trust her. Sad day for the US of A. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Propaganda must not serve the truth, especially not insofar as it might bring out something favorable for the opponent.&quot; Adolph Hitler</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m hurt by that comment &#8220;it took a president to get it done&#8221; especially from former Republican and &#8220;Goldwater girl&#8221; who was busy working for Goldwater the pro-Jim Crow guy while MLK&#8217;s supporters were courageous laying their lives on the line to FORCE LBJ to take action.</p><p>To the comment above we, Obama supporters are not over-reacting. I can not speak for all, but I am sick and tired of seeing Hillary attack Barack and white people believing the lying biatch.</p><p>She is coldly calculating her moves. She got exactly the reaction she wanted, a quiet &#8220;I think you may have offended some people&#8221; and nothing more, then has people believing &#8220;He played the race card&#8221;. She is a bigot, of this I am now sure.</p><p>Even black people trust her. Sad day for the US of A.</p><p>&#8220;Propaganda must not serve the truth, especially not insofar as it might bring out something favorable for the opponent.&#8221; Adolph Hitler</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SquarePeg</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2832</link> <dc:creator>SquarePeg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2832</guid> <description>Seaberry,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Damn.  I&#039;m good.  Called you out and you took the bait.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ladies and Gentlemen for all to see, there he is Mr. Seaberry a man of the people.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now how far to the right are you really?  Huh?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seaberry,</p><p>Damn.  I&#8217;m good.  Called you out and you took the bait.</p><p>Ladies and Gentlemen for all to see, there he is Mr. Seaberry a man of the people.</p><p>Now how far to the right are you really?  Huh?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Riddler</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2829</link> <dc:creator>Riddler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2829</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;The Clintons know that if they win the election, there will be no one else for whom African-Americans can vote since voting for a Republcian would be suicide. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Then I may just commit suicide (along those lines).  At this point, if HRC wins the nomination, I will not vote for her.  If McCain or Guiliani is the Repub. nominee, I will vote for them.  If Huckabee, Thompson, or Romney is the nominee, I either write-in someone or leave that category blank (if allowed).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oddly, if Obama doesn&#039;t win this time, I don&#039;t want HRC to win.  If she wins, that means Obama may never have another shot at president.  HRC will be in office for at least four years, and no one will run against her among the Dems if she runs for re-election (which she would), so even if she weren&#039;t re-elected, it would be another 8 years before Obama could make another run at it.  If a Republican wins, Obama only has to wait another four years.  Obviously, these are worst-case scenarios from my point of view.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Clintons know that if they win the election, there will be no one else for whom African-Americans can vote since voting for a Republcian would be suicide. </i></p><p>Then I may just commit suicide (along those lines).  At this point, if HRC wins the nomination, I will not vote for her.  If McCain or Guiliani is the Repub. nominee, I will vote for them.  If Huckabee, Thompson, or Romney is the nominee, I either write-in someone or leave that category blank (if allowed).</p><p>Oddly, if Obama doesn&#8217;t win this time, I don&#8217;t want HRC to win.  If she wins, that means Obama may never have another shot at president.  HRC will be in office for at least four years, and no one will run against her among the Dems if she runs for re-election (which she would), so even if she weren&#8217;t re-elected, it would be another 8 years before Obama could make another run at it.  If a Republican wins, Obama only has to wait another four years.  Obviously, these are worst-case scenarios from my point of view.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: oldschool</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2801</link> <dc:creator>oldschool</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2801</guid> <description>Does anyone remember Ron Brown, the brilliant black Democratic strategist, who was suddenly killed along with other millionaire investors while travelling in a plane that found a mountain side instead of an airport to land?  The Clintons come from fabric where their own ancestors lynched and burned black men and women alive and celebrated by having a picnic complete with barbeque and beer.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bill Clinton as President signed the &quot;Three Strikes Law,&quot; which emptied black communities all over America of its black men.  This law expanded the building of prisons in America, to the extent that large investment firms were offering stock options as Christmas gifts to their children.  Jail building and expansion suddenly was an American pasttime, creating jobs for whites who had been socialized to view black men only as animals behind cages.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bill Clinton also signed the &quot;Personal Responsibility Act of 1996&quot; which moved already impoverished black women from welfare into low-paying and low-skilled jobs, which allowed companies to fire these women after receiving tax credits allowed by the state and federal governments.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unfortuantely a clause of the agreement stipulated that women had to obtain work and after 5 years could not return to the system.  If women lost their jobs or were imprisoned they could not receive benefits under this new law.  As a result women unable to work because of low-skill sets and little experience ultimately found themselves in jail too.  Corporate America benefitted, but the black community lost its ability to educate its children, feed its families, or medicate the sick.  Families became more fragmented, separated and the levels of poverty were further  exacerbated.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People congratulated the law for the numbers of women who fell out of the system, just as number of black imprisonments increased  during Bill&#039;s tenure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Black men in the meantime were incarcerated based on three convictions.  This served to make America the world&#039;s largest jailer of her own citizens.  Quite a distinction!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bill Clinton left a legacy that destroyed black communities throughout America, and managed to kill off the one person who helped him get elected twice as President in the United States, Ron Brown a brilliant black strategist.  The Clinton legacy needs to end, and right now.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Barack Obama is a threat to the Clinton Clan and those who support it like Bob Johnson, who has successfully allowed the demoralization of African American youth to nose-dive into perpetuity by being driven by the money he made with his network, BET, which was sold to a white owner.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Johnson obviously likes white women, and that is probably why he is divorced today and defends the Hillary of the Clinton Clan.  Johnson&#039;s former wife is black and likely would not do the things he believed he was entitled to receive as a black millionaire in America.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Finally, Hillary has a preference for white women and the activities of white people in general.  Her world does not include black people unless they are ironing her clothes or shining her shoes. Also, Bill Clinton opened an office in Harlem as evidence of his affection for black people in the Harlem Mecca.  However, Bill Clinton rarely shows up at that office since opening it, and if he does show up, he does not stay long.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Barack Obama as president might be able to do more for America than Bill Clinton ever did, and certainly improve the race relations in this nation and throughout the world.  Obama might be able to get the 600,000 residents of the District of Columbia representation in the Congress, where other people including Nancy Pelosi could not.  Obama might be able to redirect the troops out of the Middle East, where George Bush and most Republican candidates believe an extended stay is necessary.  Obama might be able to create jobs to improve the American economy, while education and healthcare might find meaningful pathways beneficial to all Americans.  Obama might be able to quell the hatred being spewed in the immigration debate.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Won&#039;t know if white people are enpassioned to believe that a black man cannot do the job a white woman can.  White people have an extraordinary opportunity to become informed and make the right decisions based on accomplishments.  Obama did not enter this race because he was black, but because of his personal dissatisfaction of where the country was going.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People are reacting to the Clinton machine, which does not work anymore in my opinion.  The Bush Family has done enough to destroy America, and another Clinton is not needed to implode the country for good.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am a registered vioter, a black woman, holding a Masters degree in Public Policy Administration.  I need a job, because right now I drive a taxicab.  Hillary believes I should be in a service oriented position, and not one of public service.  For that reason she will not receive my vote.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember Ron Brown, the brilliant black Democratic strategist, who was suddenly killed along with other millionaire investors while travelling in a plane that found a mountain side instead of an airport to land?  The Clintons come from fabric where their own ancestors lynched and burned black men and women alive and celebrated by having a picnic complete with barbeque and beer.</p><p>Bill Clinton as President signed the &#8220;Three Strikes Law,&#8221; which emptied black communities all over America of its black men.  This law expanded the building of prisons in America, to the extent that large investment firms were offering stock options as Christmas gifts to their children.  Jail building and expansion suddenly was an American pasttime, creating jobs for whites who had been socialized to view black men only as animals behind cages.</p><p>Bill Clinton also signed the &#8220;Personal Responsibility Act of 1996&#8243; which moved already impoverished black women from welfare into low-paying and low-skilled jobs, which allowed companies to fire these women after receiving tax credits allowed by the state and federal governments.</p><p>Unfortuantely a clause of the agreement stipulated that women had to obtain work and after 5 years could not return to the system.  If women lost their jobs or were imprisoned they could not receive benefits under this new law.  As a result women unable to work because of low-skill sets and little experience ultimately found themselves in jail too.  Corporate America benefitted, but the black community lost its ability to educate its children, feed its families, or medicate the sick.  Families became more fragmented, separated and the levels of poverty were further  exacerbated.</p><p>People congratulated the law for the numbers of women who fell out of the system, just as number of black imprisonments increased  during Bill&#8217;s tenure.</p><p>Black men in the meantime were incarcerated based on three convictions.  This served to make America the world&#8217;s largest jailer of her own citizens.  Quite a distinction!!!</p><p>Bill Clinton left a legacy that destroyed black communities throughout America, and managed to kill off the one person who helped him get elected twice as President in the United States, Ron Brown a brilliant black strategist.  The Clinton legacy needs to end, and right now.</p><p>Barack Obama is a threat to the Clinton Clan and those who support it like Bob Johnson, who has successfully allowed the demoralization of African American youth to nose-dive into perpetuity by being driven by the money he made with his network, BET, which was sold to a white owner.</p><p>Johnson obviously likes white women, and that is probably why he is divorced today and defends the Hillary of the Clinton Clan.  Johnson&#8217;s former wife is black and likely would not do the things he believed he was entitled to receive as a black millionaire in America.</p><p>Finally, Hillary has a preference for white women and the activities of white people in general.  Her world does not include black people unless they are ironing her clothes or shining her shoes. Also, Bill Clinton opened an office in Harlem as evidence of his affection for black people in the Harlem Mecca.  However, Bill Clinton rarely shows up at that office since opening it, and if he does show up, he does not stay long.</p><p>Barack Obama as president might be able to do more for America than Bill Clinton ever did, and certainly improve the race relations in this nation and throughout the world.  Obama might be able to get the 600,000 residents of the District of Columbia representation in the Congress, where other people including Nancy Pelosi could not.  Obama might be able to redirect the troops out of the Middle East, where George Bush and most Republican candidates believe an extended stay is necessary.  Obama might be able to create jobs to improve the American economy, while education and healthcare might find meaningful pathways beneficial to all Americans.  Obama might be able to quell the hatred being spewed in the immigration debate.</p><p>Won&#8217;t know if white people are enpassioned to believe that a black man cannot do the job a white woman can.  White people have an extraordinary opportunity to become informed and make the right decisions based on accomplishments.  Obama did not enter this race because he was black, but because of his personal dissatisfaction of where the country was going.</p><p>People are reacting to the Clinton machine, which does not work anymore in my opinion.  The Bush Family has done enough to destroy America, and another Clinton is not needed to implode the country for good.</p><p>I am a registered vioter, a black woman, holding a Masters degree in Public Policy Administration.  I need a job, because right now I drive a taxicab.  Hillary believes I should be in a service oriented position, and not one of public service.  For that reason she will not receive my vote.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bradski</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2796</link> <dc:creator>bradski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2796</guid> <description>I don&#039;t see why anyone is surprised by the Clintons&#039; use of race to attack Obama.  This is just like Bill Clinton&#039;s use of Sistah Souljah back in 1990.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Clintons know that if they win the election, there will be no one else for whom African-Americans can vote since voting for a Republcian would be suicide.  For the Clinton campaign, this is a win-win situation.  They have nothing to lose.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Last year, people sent CBS packages of peanuts to campaign for the return of the TV show &quot;Jericho.&quot;  Someone needs to start a similar campaign with the Clinton.  Maybe blogs should have a picture of Hillary with a red stop logo over it.  Or, a Clinton Free Zone logo?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is why I wished that Clinton had lost in New Hampshire.  If you look at John Edwards, he has stayed about using racist games to win votes and focused on the issues.  A contest between Edwards and Obama would have been much better for the country.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why anyone is surprised by the Clintons&#8217; use of race to attack Obama.  This is just like Bill Clinton&#8217;s use of Sistah Souljah back in 1990.</p><p>The Clintons know that if they win the election, there will be no one else for whom African-Americans can vote since voting for a Republcian would be suicide.  For the Clinton campaign, this is a win-win situation.  They have nothing to lose.</p><p>Last year, people sent CBS packages of peanuts to campaign for the return of the TV show &#8220;Jericho.&#8221;  Someone needs to start a similar campaign with the Clinton.  Maybe blogs should have a picture of Hillary with a red stop logo over it.  Or, a Clinton Free Zone logo?</p><p>This is why I wished that Clinton had lost in New Hampshire.  If you look at John Edwards, he has stayed about using racist games to win votes and focused on the issues.  A contest between Edwards and Obama would have been much better for the country.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2795</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2795</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;And what&#039;s up with these Blacks who feel Obama should stay in the community...what are you so afraid of?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a word: Excellence. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is simply too much value placed on &lt;i&gt;mediocrity&lt;/i&gt; these days. Hell, I&#039;d say its enforced to be perfectly frank. Could we produce the same great men and women of the past? I don&#039;t think so. Even politicians are focused on maintaining good poll results -  a recipe for mediocrity if there ever was one. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Remember the old hymn? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dare to be a Daniel,&lt;br/&gt;Dare to stand alone!&lt;br/&gt;Dare to have a purpose firm!&lt;br/&gt;Dare to make it known.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just add &lt;i&gt;Don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; to the front of every line and you&#039;ve got every spineless &quot;leader&quot; out there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And what&#8217;s up with these Blacks who feel Obama should stay in the community&#8230;what are you so afraid of?</i></p><p>In a word: Excellence.</p><p>There is simply too much value placed on <i>mediocrity</i> these days. Hell, I&#8217;d say its enforced to be perfectly frank. Could we produce the same great men and women of the past? I don&#8217;t think so. Even politicians are focused on maintaining good poll results &#8211;  a recipe for mediocrity if there ever was one.</p><p>Remember the old hymn? <br /><i>Dare to be a Daniel,<br />Dare to stand alone!<br />Dare to have a purpose firm!<br />Dare to make it known.</i></p><p>Just add <i>Don&#8217;t</i> to the front of every line and you&#8217;ve got every spineless &#8220;leader&#8221; out there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2792</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2792</guid> <description>Anonymous&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Difficult as it may be, Obama needs to stay on the high road and not let the Clinton machine take his focus off the voters.  WE ARE LISTENING.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My daughter is biracial, and I know it can be difficult...even in 2008.  Everyone is always trying to tell you who you are.  You find yourself never being on the right side of the color line.  I&#039;m not voting for Obama because of his skin color, or some perceived loyalty to whites (or blacks for that matter).  I&#039;m voting for him because he is the most rational, inclusive, and inspiring candidate I&#039;ve seen in a long time.  I&#039;m a 40 year old white female, and will cast my vote for Obama in NJ on February 5th.  So much for NJ being Hillary country!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous</p><p>Difficult as it may be, Obama needs to stay on the high road and not let the Clinton machine take his focus off the voters.  WE ARE LISTENING.</p><p>My daughter is biracial, and I know it can be difficult&#8230;even in 2008.  Everyone is always trying to tell you who you are.  You find yourself never being on the right side of the color line.  I&#8217;m not voting for Obama because of his skin color, or some perceived loyalty to whites (or blacks for that matter).  I&#8217;m voting for him because he is the most rational, inclusive, and inspiring candidate I&#8217;ve seen in a long time.  I&#8217;m a 40 year old white female, and will cast my vote for Obama in NJ on February 5th.  So much for NJ being Hillary country!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2780</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2780</guid> <description>If you can&#039;t kill the black man (like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X) then why not drag him down with drama that the Clinton&#039;s are stirring up.  And what&#039;s up with these Blacks who feel Obama should stay in the community...what are you so afraid of?  Is it possile to have hope for our children and their children?  That is why I am an Obama supporter and I pray for him every day.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hope for the Future</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t kill the black man (like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X) then why not drag him down with drama that the Clinton&#8217;s are stirring up.  And what&#8217;s up with these Blacks who feel Obama should stay in the community&#8230;what are you so afraid of?  Is it possile to have hope for our children and their children?  That is why I am an Obama supporter and I pray for him every day.</p><p>Hope for the Future</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TrueBlue</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2769</link> <dc:creator>TrueBlue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2769</guid> <description>I&#039;m white, heard MLK&#039;s &quot;I have a dream&quot; speech as a 9 year old in Washington. I have never felt better and more American than the night of the Iowa caucuses. I have been as angry at  the Clintons as George Bush himself since a day or two after Iowa. Believe me, there are a lot of us out here who heard their dog whistle right away when it started in the fall, but the code really picked up big time in NH. We need to vanquish these wretched sleezebags and all their enablers, white and black. Enough!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m white, heard MLK&#8217;s &#8220;I have a dream&#8221; speech as a 9 year old in Washington. I have never felt better and more American than the night of the Iowa caucuses. I have been as angry at  the Clintons as George Bush himself since a day or two after Iowa. Believe me, there are a lot of us out here who heard their dog whistle right away when it started in the fall, but the code really picked up big time in NH. We need to vanquish these wretched sleezebags and all their enablers, white and black. Enough!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2767</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2767</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;What this sets up of course, is the idea that Obama doesn&#039;t have the &quot;best interests of his people in mind&quot;. This is a criticism white people, especially white conservatives, like to level at black activists like Al Sharpton.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Eeeeevil white male Republican here. Nobody on the Right that I&#039;ve met or read takes this view, mainly because Identity Politics are a &lt;i&gt;Leftist&lt;/i&gt; trope, never a Rightwing one. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To the Right, the only &#039;people&#039; one should have in mind are the American People. Thats why we&#039;re so frequently disgusted with race-baiters and -hustlers. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Its also why I admire Obama thus far: I have not seen him play the race card, which makes me think that finally we have a worthy adversary, someone I could respect even though I despise his politics.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And understand, I&#039;m well aware that the Right frequently fails at fulfilling its own high standards, but at least we&#039;ll do you the service of treating Obama as a political &lt;i&gt;enemy&lt;/i&gt; rather than some uppity black guy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hillary is only digging on his race because she hasn&#039;t any of her own views. Don&#039;t you see? She has nothing else to work with.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What this sets up of course, is the idea that Obama doesn&#8217;t have the &#8220;best interests of his people in mind&#8221;. This is a criticism white people, especially white conservatives, like to level at black activists like Al Sharpton.</i></p><p>Eeeeevil white male Republican here. Nobody on the Right that I&#8217;ve met or read takes this view, mainly because Identity Politics are a <i>Leftist</i> trope, never a Rightwing one.</p><p>To the Right, the only &#8216;people&#8217; one should have in mind are the American People. Thats why we&#8217;re so frequently disgusted with race-baiters and -hustlers.</p><p>Its also why I admire Obama thus far: I have not seen him play the race card, which makes me think that finally we have a worthy adversary, someone I could respect even though I despise his politics.</p><p>And understand, I&#8217;m well aware that the Right frequently fails at fulfilling its own high standards, but at least we&#8217;ll do you the service of treating Obama as a political <i>enemy</i> rather than some uppity black guy.</p><p>Hillary is only digging on his race because she hasn&#8217;t any of her own views. Don&#8217;t you see? She has nothing else to work with.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LATASHA</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2764</link> <dc:creator>LATASHA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2764</guid> <description>The author of this post has articulated this argument wonderfully!  I could not have said it better, and in my perusal of other blogs, neither could they.  This is my first time checking out this blog, but this will be a regular pit-stop in the blogsphere for me. I was not in Jack &amp; Jill, but is clear that this is blog is engaging, stimulating, and on-point.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of this post has articulated this argument wonderfully!  I could not have said it better, and in my perusal of other blogs, neither could they.  This is my first time checking out this blog, but this will be a regular pit-stop in the blogsphere for me. I was not in Jack &#038; Jill, but is clear that this is blog is engaging, stimulating, and on-point.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2756</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2756</guid> <description>The name of Hillary Clinton&#039;s first chief of staff is Margaret Ann &quot;Maggie&quot; Williams, not &quot;Maggie&quot; Johnson. She was also the Communications Director at the Childrens&#039; Defense Fund until sometime late 1990 or early 1991. Ms. Williams also served as the first executive director of Bill Clinton&#039;s Harlem-based operation. If she appeared on Scarborough&#039;s program defending these snide attacks on Obama, then there is strong reason to suspect her of playing a major role in orchestrating these tactics.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name of Hillary Clinton&#8217;s first chief of staff is Margaret Ann &#8220;Maggie&#8221; Williams, not &#8220;Maggie&#8221; Johnson. She was also the Communications Director at the Childrens&#8217; Defense Fund until sometime late 1990 or early 1991. Ms. Williams also served as the first executive director of Bill Clinton&#8217;s Harlem-based operation. If she appeared on Scarborough&#8217;s program defending these snide attacks on Obama, then there is strong reason to suspect her of playing a major role in orchestrating these tactics.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ProblemWithCaring</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2752</link> <dc:creator>ProblemWithCaring</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2752</guid> <description>ugh this rambling and meaningless post highlights the ridiculousness of race dialogue in this country and why there WILL NEVER BE  A BLACK PREZ in our lifetimes. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;black&quot; people only want our &quot;blackness.&quot; Our otherness. Our victimhood. Our shruggle. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thats all that will satify black folks like these. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well keep the shit. &#039;cause that&#039;s all we gonna have with Billary.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh this rambling and meaningless post highlights the ridiculousness of race dialogue in this country and why there WILL NEVER BE  A BLACK PREZ in our lifetimes.</p><p>&#8220;black&#8221; people only want our &#8220;blackness.&#8221; Our otherness. Our victimhood. Our shruggle.</p><p>Thats all that will satify black folks like these.</p><p>Well keep the shit. &#8217;cause that&#8217;s all we gonna have with Billary.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MadMama</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2751</link> <dc:creator>MadMama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2751</guid> <description>Ah, the ugliness begins.  Race or gender?  Black or white?  The Clintons are downright Rove-ian in their tactics- they will stop at nothing to beat Obama back to the Senate, or better community organizing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bob Johnson needs to STFU and SIT DOWN.  This man got rich denigrating black women and the entire black community.  The smut merchant is throwing stones.  Christ!  That he gets any airtime for his foolishness is unbelievable.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Andy Young&#039;s remarks foreshadow the ugly trump card that someone in the Clinton campaign is trolling for:  the photo of Obama with the white girls at Harvard (or is it Yale?)  If they can Harold Ford him, they will.  Mark my words.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the ugliness begins.  Race or gender?  Black or white?  The Clintons are downright Rove-ian in their tactics- they will stop at nothing to beat Obama back to the Senate, or better community organizing.</p><p>Bob Johnson needs to STFU and SIT DOWN.  This man got rich denigrating black women and the entire black community.  The smut merchant is throwing stones.  Christ!  That he gets any airtime for his foolishness is unbelievable.</p><p>Andy Young&#8217;s remarks foreshadow the ugly trump card that someone in the Clinton campaign is trolling for:  the photo of Obama with the white girls at Harvard (or is it Yale?)  If they can Harold Ford him, they will.  Mark my words.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mister Andrew</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2750</link> <dc:creator>Mister Andrew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2750</guid> <description>The divisive tactics of the Clintons just show that they are resorting to the lowest of the low. They are, sadly, Karl Rovian and Bush-esque in nature. Have underlings and &quot;non-campaigners&quot; throw out &quot;non-attack&quot; attacks, then have the campaigner or manager say something like &quot;well, that&#039;s not my opinion,&quot; or better &quot;we have no control over what other&#039;s say&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Be it race or Iraq or voting record, these distortions are malicious. Hopefully, Obama can rightfully portray these non-attack attacks as Karl Rovian in nature, instead of racist in nature.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The divisive tactics of the Clintons just show that they are resorting to the lowest of the low. They are, sadly, Karl Rovian and Bush-esque in nature. Have underlings and &#8220;non-campaigners&#8221; throw out &#8220;non-attack&#8221; attacks, then have the campaigner or manager say something like &#8220;well, that&#8217;s not my opinion,&#8221; or better &#8220;we have no control over what other&#8217;s say&#8221;.</p><p>Be it race or Iraq or voting record, these distortions are malicious. Hopefully, Obama can rightfully portray these non-attack attacks as Karl Rovian in nature, instead of racist in nature.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Malletgirl02</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2748</link> <dc:creator>Malletgirl02</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2748</guid> <description>I know someone probably said this earlier, but the Clinton supporters are trying to have it both ways. They are trying to make Obama  both an &quot;Oreo&quot; and an &quot;angry black man&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know someone probably said this earlier, but the Clinton supporters are trying to have it both ways. They are trying to make Obama  both an &#8220;Oreo&#8221; and an &#8220;angry black man&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Phillip M. Bailey</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2747</link> <dc:creator>Phillip M. Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2747</guid> <description>I&#039;m watching Hardball w/ Chris Matthews on MSNBC, and &lt;b&gt;Jonathan Capehart&lt;/b&gt; from the WashPost is such an Clinton apologist. He defended Hilary&#039;s remarks on MLK as being hysteria from the Obama surrogates (i.e. Afr-Am bloggers).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The other guest, Bob Simon from politico.com had to say that Hilary was wrong and tore down an icon with her comments. I hate it when black journalists and politicians carry water for the Clintons no matter how embarrassing and out of touch they are with black public opinion. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Listen, I&#039;m not completely sold on Obama&#039;s candidacy (see Glen Ford&#039;s criticisms) but we should all pay attention to the paternalism of the Clinton Dynasty...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh My! Now &lt;b&gt;Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee&lt;/b&gt; another Clinton lackey, is defending Hilary&#039;s comments on MLK.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;WTF???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m watching Hardball w/ Chris Matthews on MSNBC, and <b>Jonathan Capehart</b> from the WashPost is such an Clinton apologist. He defended Hilary&#8217;s remarks on MLK as being hysteria from the Obama surrogates (i.e. Afr-Am bloggers).</p><p>The other guest, Bob Simon from politico.com had to say that Hilary was wrong and tore down an icon with her comments. I hate it when black journalists and politicians carry water for the Clintons no matter how embarrassing and out of touch they are with black public opinion.</p><p>Listen, I&#8217;m not completely sold on Obama&#8217;s candidacy (see Glen Ford&#8217;s criticisms) but we should all pay attention to the paternalism of the Clinton Dynasty&#8230;</p><p>Oh My! Now <b>Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee</b> another Clinton lackey, is defending Hilary&#8217;s comments on MLK.</p><p>WTF???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scooter</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/oreos-and-house-negroes-the-clinton-strategy-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-2742</link> <dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=716#comment-2742</guid> <description>thanks for your analysis.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think it&#039;s the Rove card.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hit your opponent on all of his strong points. The war, youth, inspirational brilliance, and if you believe the meme that white folks only support him because we feel guilty or need imaginary Black friends, then you hit him there too somehow. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your analysis filled in the rest of the picture about how this was supposed to play out with Black folks vis a vis white folks vis a vis Black folks. That&#039;s the evil genius of the Rove card, because now we&#039;re going in circles.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s possible to play the Rove card against a Black candidate without sounding bigoted, condescending, ignorant, and/or insensitive, but what kind of decent person wants to try?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I see no reason to cut her any slack at all. They didn&#039;t have to go there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s very sad about the young Cuomo. Obama is the most inspirational Democrat since Mario Cuomo. And Obama has the guts to put it on the line for us. But it was always going to be Up Hil against the Clinton machine.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your analysis.</p><p>I think it&#8217;s the Rove card.</p><p>Hit your opponent on all of his strong points. The war, youth, inspirational brilliance, and if you believe the meme that white folks only support him because we feel guilty or need imaginary Black friends, then you hit him there too somehow.</p><p>Your analysis filled in the rest of the picture about how this was supposed to play out with Black folks vis a vis white folks vis a vis Black folks. That&#8217;s the evil genius of the Rove card, because now we&#8217;re going in circles.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s possible to play the Rove card against a Black candidate without sounding bigoted, condescending, ignorant, and/or insensitive, but what kind of decent person wants to try?</p><p>I see no reason to cut her any slack at all. They didn&#8217;t have to go there.</p><p>It&#8217;s very sad about the young Cuomo. Obama is the most inspirational Democrat since Mario Cuomo. And Obama has the guts to put it on the line for us. But it was always going to be Up Hil against the Clinton machine.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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