Comments on: Now, Obama was a ‘ Part-time State Senator?’ HELL NO http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:56:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: skymutt http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2655 skymutt Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:23:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2655 <i>Nothing 'part-time' about that, Senator 'I got everything because of who I married' Clinton.</i><br/><br/>Uh, the Clintons have been a couple since law school, and married before Bill was anybody. Hillary didn't get anything because of who she married. They've always been a team. If they weren't married, who's to say that Bill would have ever been elected dogcatcher? You're making it out like she's a trophy wife or something! Nothing ‘part-time’ about that, Senator ‘I got everything because of who I married’ Clinton.

Uh, the Clintons have been a couple since law school, and married before Bill was anybody. Hillary didn’t get anything because of who she married. They’ve always been a team. If they weren’t married, who’s to say that Bill would have ever been elected dogcatcher? You’re making it out like she’s a trophy wife or something!

]]> By: G.D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2629 G.D. Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:19:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2629 Are we gonna get apoplectic with indignation every time someone criticizes Obama?<br/><br/>This is presidential politics, folks. It's gonna happen if he's elected president, too ---- and many of those criticisms will be valid. <br/><br/>relax, people. Are we gonna get apoplectic with indignation every time someone criticizes Obama?

This is presidential politics, folks. It’s gonna happen if he’s elected president, too —- and many of those criticisms will be valid.

relax, people.

]]> By: Jamelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2617 Jamelle Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:26:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2617 That quote is thick with Clinton's sense of entitlement. It seems like she's saying "I've done so much more, look at who I am, I deserve to be president, not him!" That quote is thick with Clinton’s sense of entitlement. It seems like she’s saying “I’ve done so much more, look at who I am, I deserve to be president, not him!”

]]> By: baratunde aka jack turner http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2597 baratunde aka jack turner Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:47:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2597 @D. I am so glad we have you around. You're like a caricature or foil. Seriously, you could easily Google, but instead you drop little bombs of ignorance.<br/><br/>Ok that's mean. I'll assume you're actually interested this time. dnA is right. Here's more, specifically on him NOT campaigning from the moment he got there<br/><br/>http://obama.senate.gov/news/051217-obama_shuns_lim/<br/><br/>and<br/><br/>http://tinyurl.com/2kxbjf<br/><br/>summary<br/><br/>BIG STUFF<br/>- nonproliferation<br/>- avian flu<br/>- regulating genetic testing<br/>- medical malpractice litigation reform (the right way)<br/>- energy<br/>- hurricane katrina<br/>- government spending database for the public<br/>- veteran's healthcare<br/>- voter intimidation<br/>- lobbying reform @D. I am so glad we have you around. You’re like a caricature or foil. Seriously, you could easily Google, but instead you drop little bombs of ignorance.

Ok that’s mean. I’ll assume you’re actually interested this time. dnA is right. Here’s more, specifically on him NOT campaigning from the moment he got there

http://obama.senate.gov/news/051217-obama_shuns_lim/

and

http://tinyurl.com/2kxbjf

summary

BIG STUFF
- nonproliferation
- avian flu
- regulating genetic testing
- medical malpractice litigation reform (the right way)
- energy
- hurricane katrina
- government spending database for the public
- veteran’s healthcare
- voter intimidation
- lobbying reform

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2594 Anonymous Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:34:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2594 It is my understanding that ALL Illinois state senators are part-time, because the job itself of being an Illinois state senator is part-time. Obama used the rest of his time to continue his work organizing and writing. It is my understanding that ALL Illinois state senators are part-time, because the job itself of being an Illinois state senator is part-time. Obama used the rest of his time to continue his work organizing and writing.

]]> By: natthedem http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2593 natthedem Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:32:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2593 As Clinton herself might say, can we just have a sort of <a HREF="http://natthedem.com/blog/?p=450" REL="nofollow">a reality break for a minute</a>? As Clinton herself might say, can we just have a sort of a reality break for a minute?

]]> By: dnA http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2588 dnA Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:42:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2588 D.<br/><br/>Obama's two main legislative accomplishments were the ethics reforms that prevent former members of congress from becoming registered lobbyists less than two years after they left, among other things. In the context of our current government, and the issues of corruption that have come up time and time again in the past few years, that's pretty important. He wanted to create an independent ethics panel but was derailed by many of the elder senators, including Clinton.<br/><br/>The other was the bill he co-sponsored with Republican Senator Lugar to reduce the spread and availablity of conventional (non-wmd) weapons. <br/><br/>He is currently, with Senator Clinton, and former hopefuls Brownback (R-KS) and Biden (D-DE) a sponsor of the second chance act, which restores voting rights to ex-felons and gives funds to programs that are supposed to reduce the 2/3 national recidivism rate. <br/><br/>Pretty important stuff, although no one could argue that he hasn't been there that long. D.

Obama’s two main legislative accomplishments were the ethics reforms that prevent former members of congress from becoming registered lobbyists less than two years after they left, among other things. In the context of our current government, and the issues of corruption that have come up time and time again in the past few years, that’s pretty important. He wanted to create an independent ethics panel but was derailed by many of the elder senators, including Clinton.

The other was the bill he co-sponsored with Republican Senator Lugar to reduce the spread and availablity of conventional (non-wmd) weapons.

He is currently, with Senator Clinton, and former hopefuls Brownback (R-KS) and Biden (D-DE) a sponsor of the second chance act, which restores voting rights to ex-felons and gives funds to programs that are supposed to reduce the 2/3 national recidivism rate.

Pretty important stuff, although no one could argue that he hasn’t been there that long.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2581 Anonymous Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:00:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2581 Obama himself conceded that he was a part-time legislator (see below). I am supporting him, but I think the point (for us) is that traditional experience is not as valuable as his judgment, which has, in my view, been much better than Clinton's to date. I think the more we buy into the experience debate, the more likely Clinton ultimately wins. Obama knows this, which is why I suspect no one from his camp will be responding. <br/><br/>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/11/update-obama-describes-h_n_81109.html Obama himself conceded that he was a part-time legislator (see below). I am supporting him, but I think the point (for us) is that traditional experience is not as valuable as his judgment, which has, in my view, been much better than Clinton’s to date. I think the more we buy into the experience debate, the more likely Clinton ultimately wins. Obama knows this, which is why I suspect no one from his camp will be responding.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/11/update-obama-describes-h_n_81109.html

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2579 D. Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:53:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2579 ...but hasn't he essentially been campaigning since his speech in 2004? Has he really done anything of note in the senate since he's been there? …but hasn’t he essentially been campaigning since his speech in 2004? Has he really done anything of note in the senate since he’s been there?

]]> By: The Bag of Health and Politics http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2578 The Bag of Health and Politics Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:51:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2578 Now this is disgusting, and over the line. Clyburn needs to endorse now. They crossed the line. <br/><br/>From the <a HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2238148,00.html" REL="nofollow">The Guardian</a> which quotes a Clinton adviser as saying <br/><br/><i>If you have a social need, you're with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool."</i> <br/><br/>Pathetic. The person who said that--my guess that asshole Mark Penn--is a racist. Absolutely pathetic politics. <br/><br/>Hat tip: <a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/11/171147/010/1013/435282" REL="nofollow">Walt Starr on dkos</a> Now this is disgusting, and over the line. Clyburn needs to endorse now. They crossed the line.

From the The Guardian which quotes a Clinton adviser as saying

If you have a social need, you’re with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you’re young and you have no social needs, then he’s cool.”

Pathetic. The person who said that–my guess that asshole Mark Penn–is a racist. Absolutely pathetic politics.

Hat tip: Walt Starr on dkos

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2576 Anonymous Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:26:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2576 I'm thoroughly disgusted with these people! The Clintons are no better than Bush and I see this getting just as nasty as what Rove did to McCain. Next we're gonna say his mother was an n-word lover and his wife was a welfare queen or prostitute. I’m thoroughly disgusted with these people! The Clintons are no better than Bush and I see this getting just as nasty as what Rove did to McCain. Next we’re gonna say his mother was an n-word lover and his wife was a welfare queen or prostitute.

]]> By: The Bag of Health and Politics http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2575 The Bag of Health and Politics Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:08:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2575 National Conference of State Legislatures classifies Illinois Legislators as <a HREF="http://www.ncsl.org/programs/press/2004/backgrounder_fullandpart.htm" REL="nofollow">full-time.</a> <br/><br/>So what she said was also factually wrong. <br/><br/>Obama is said to have called his law firm on his first day in office to say, "Don't pay me, this is a full-time job." He taught law courses part-time as a State Senator; just as Clinton served on Boards of Directors (including Wal-Mart's) in her spare time as First Lady of Arkansas. National Conference of State Legislatures classifies Illinois Legislators as full-time.

So what she said was also factually wrong.

Obama is said to have called his law firm on his first day in office to say, “Don’t pay me, this is a full-time job.” He taught law courses part-time as a State Senator; just as Clinton served on Boards of Directors (including Wal-Mart’s) in her spare time as First Lady of Arkansas.

]]> By: The Bougie Baller http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2572 The Bougie Baller Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:30:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2572 hilarious. nice blog! hilarious. nice blog!

]]> By: Dave L http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2571 Dave L Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:26:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2571 Take heart from their desperation, and don't be goaded into replying in kind. And take a look at the comment thread at the TPM link - that's a neutral site, and the hostility to HRC is running high. Take heart from their desperation, and don’t be goaded into replying in kind. And take a look at the comment thread at the TPM link – that’s a neutral site, and the hostility to HRC is running high.

]]> By: Dré http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2570 Dré Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:25:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2570 this b!$ch has lost her !%$!$$! mind...I'm so done with the Clintons...even if she gets the nomination, I'm at the point of not voting period. If another Republican is elected, so be it. So, HRC's bedroom experience accounts for "experience"? I wish someone would bring that up. If that experience is pertinent, why doesn't Laura Bush run for President?<br/>Also, if she does get the nomination, are we all suppose to rally around her like slaves on the plantation and say all is forgiving and sing Kumba ya my lord? I don't f........ think so!!!!!!! this b!$ch has lost her !%$!$$! mind…I’m so done with the Clintons…even if she gets the nomination, I’m at the point of not voting period. If another Republican is elected, so be it. So, HRC’s bedroom experience accounts for “experience”? I wish someone would bring that up. If that experience is pertinent, why doesn’t Laura Bush run for President?
Also, if she does get the nomination, are we all suppose to rally around her like slaves on the plantation and say all is forgiving and sing Kumba ya my lord? I don’t f…….. think so!!!!!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2568 Anonymous Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:23:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2568 What's so incredibly sad to me is that I think ultimately she is going to be effective playing these dirty political tricks.<br/><br/>The latest move appears to be druming up distrust among the Latino community for Obama by playing on widely reported racial tensions and fears between the two groups.<br/><br/>As someone who truly believes in the vision that Obama is speaking to, I'm seriously worried that the Clinton's and their political machine will find ways to kneecap him so that what could be a wonderful bridge doesn't get built.<br/><br/>Spread the word to everyone who will listen, an Obama presidency is our best chance at the type of unity we've all wanted to see our country obtain. What’s so incredibly sad to me is that I think ultimately she is going to be effective playing these dirty political tricks.

The latest move appears to be druming up distrust among the Latino community for Obama by playing on widely reported racial tensions and fears between the two groups.

As someone who truly believes in the vision that Obama is speaking to, I’m seriously worried that the Clinton’s and their political machine will find ways to kneecap him so that what could be a wonderful bridge doesn’t get built.

Spread the word to everyone who will listen, an Obama presidency is our best chance at the type of unity we’ve all wanted to see our country obtain.

]]> By: faboo http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/01/now-obama-was-a-part-time-state-senator-hell-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2566 faboo Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:04:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=710#comment-2566 Clinton is out-Rove-ing Rove. That's gotta say something. Clinton is out-Rove-ing Rove. That’s gotta say something.

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