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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Clinton on Meet the Press &#8212; Aftermath and Impressions</title>
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		<title>By: jstele</title>
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		<dc:creator>jstele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Hillary made that comment about Martin Luther King and Lyndon Johnson, she was really comparing Obama to MLK and herself to Johnson. Obama represents hope as did MLK. This was her subtle way of saying that he represents hope, but she is the one who will get the job done. His hope is empty while her leadership is what will make the necessary changes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What&#039;s interesting is that not only is it a comparison based on perceived leadership, but also race. She did diminish King&#039;s leadership and his contributions to civil rights through her comment. Her comments afterwards were pure damage control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Hillary made that comment about Martin Luther King and Lyndon Johnson, she was really comparing Obama to MLK and herself to Johnson. Obama represents hope as did MLK. This was her subtle way of saying that he represents hope, but she is the one who will get the job done. His hope is empty while her leadership is what will make the necessary changes.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that not only is it a comparison based on perceived leadership, but also race. She did diminish King&#8217;s leadership and his contributions to civil rights through her comment. Her comments afterwards were pure damage control.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this post and hope very much that people are seeing through Hillary&#039;s dishonesty.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One thing, though; the Americans with Disabilities Act was passed in 1991, during the first Bush Administration, and the Family and Medical Leave Act was passed the same year. The Clinton administration was competent, barely, and I was proud to have voted for him twice, but without a Democratic Congress, he spent 6 years playing defense. And since he was responsible for losing congress...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Barack Obama can get us a landslide, a landslide that can move the country beyond whatever micro-proposals either Obama or Clinton feel obliged to put out during the campaign. Clinton will just piss people off, and we&#039;ll spend the next 8 years trying to get a $23 tax credit for new shoelaces passed and she&#039;ll try to tell us that its the second coming of the new deal. No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this post and hope very much that people are seeing through Hillary&#8217;s dishonesty.</p>
<p>One thing, though; the Americans with Disabilities Act was passed in 1991, during the first Bush Administration, and the Family and Medical Leave Act was passed the same year. The Clinton administration was competent, barely, and I was proud to have voted for him twice, but without a Democratic Congress, he spent 6 years playing defense. And since he was responsible for losing congress&#8230;</p>
<p>Barack Obama can get us a landslide, a landslide that can move the country beyond whatever micro-proposals either Obama or Clinton feel obliged to put out during the campaign. Clinton will just piss people off, and we&#8217;ll spend the next 8 years trying to get a $23 tax credit for new shoelaces passed and she&#8217;ll try to tell us that its the second coming of the new deal. No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bag of Health and Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bag of Health and Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary 53&lt;br/&gt;None of the Above 40 &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;None of the Above WINS Detroit and Flint, the major urban areas of Michigan. Hillary wins on suburban white women. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;From Exit Polling. Among African Americans&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;None of the Above 73 &lt;br/&gt;Hillary 25&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tell me how you can win Michigan when 40% of voters went out on a snowy day just to vote AGAINST you. Hillary has major problems. She is unelectable. People are starting to realize that. Obama needs to win Nevada--a tough thing for him to do. If he can, then the wheels start to fall off of Hillary&#039;s bus again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary 53<br />None of the Above 40 </p>
<p>None of the Above WINS Detroit and Flint, the major urban areas of Michigan. Hillary wins on suburban white women. </p>
<p>From Exit Polling. Among African Americans</p>
<p>None of the Above 73 <br />Hillary 25</p>
<p>Tell me how you can win Michigan when 40% of voters went out on a snowy day just to vote AGAINST you. Hillary has major problems. She is unelectable. People are starting to realize that. Obama needs to win Nevada&#8211;a tough thing for him to do. If he can, then the wheels start to fall off of Hillary&#8217;s bus again.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation was established by the family that currently owns the NY Jets of the NFL and was the president of Johnson and Johnson.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;as for Magic Johnson, he has already stuck his foot in his mouth regarding Barack Obama...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://inkognegro.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/magic-johnson-and-a-live-microphone-a-match-made-in-heaven/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation was established by the family that currently owns the NY Jets of the NFL and was the president of Johnson and Johnson.</p>
<p>as for Magic Johnson, he has already stuck his foot in his mouth regarding Barack Obama&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://inkognegro.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/magic-johnson-and-a-live-microphone-a-match-made-in-heaven/" rel="nofollow">http://inkognegro.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/magic-johnson-and-a-live-microphone-a-match-made-in-heaven/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for voting for HRC in the general election, there is no way. I did not vote for her husband in &#039;92 or &#039;96 for pretty much the same nonsense and ended up voting third party. It was the best thing I ever did, and I have no voter&#039;s remorse.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;More people need to vote for what they believe and not what the media or lame surrogates tell them what to believe. If more people threw off their votes to parties like the Greens (say 5%-15% of voters), the Democratic party would definitely take notice, especially since elections have been so close lately. Until then, some in the Democratic Party will continue to take your vote for granted while they insult you to your face. You never saw George W. Bush insult the evangelicals, even though he may have taken them for granted.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Clinton campaign over the last month has been, at best, disgraceful. There are plenty of other reasons not to vote for Hillary Clinton, in addition to the lastest round of racebaiting. They do not deserve anyone&#039;s vote (African-Americans, Latinos, Labor et al) for that matter. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was prepared to vote for the any of the Democratic candidates until a month ago. If HRC wins the primary, she will definitely not get my vote. It is time to throw her entitled butt under the bus and let her see what it feels like. Let her kiss the &quot;restoration&quot; goodbye. If they lose over this, I guarantee the Democratic party will see to it that this nonsense does not happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for voting for HRC in the general election, there is no way. I did not vote for her husband in &#8216;92 or &#8216;96 for pretty much the same nonsense and ended up voting third party. It was the best thing I ever did, and I have no voter&#8217;s remorse.</p>
<p>More people need to vote for what they believe and not what the media or lame surrogates tell them what to believe. If more people threw off their votes to parties like the Greens (say 5%-15% of voters), the Democratic party would definitely take notice, especially since elections have been so close lately. Until then, some in the Democratic Party will continue to take your vote for granted while they insult you to your face. You never saw George W. Bush insult the evangelicals, even though he may have taken them for granted.</p>
<p>The Clinton campaign over the last month has been, at best, disgraceful. There are plenty of other reasons not to vote for Hillary Clinton, in addition to the lastest round of racebaiting. They do not deserve anyone&#8217;s vote (African-Americans, Latinos, Labor et al) for that matter. </p>
<p>I was prepared to vote for the any of the Democratic candidates until a month ago. If HRC wins the primary, she will definitely not get my vote. It is time to throw her entitled butt under the bus and let her see what it feels like. Let her kiss the &#8220;restoration&#8221; goodbye. If they lose over this, I guarantee the Democratic party will see to it that this nonsense does not happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: ceedub</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceedub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear that many folks see through the Clintons&#039; BS scheme.  I think this incident reminds people of all the stuff they couldn&#039;t stand about the Clintons--the drama, the scandals, etc.  Who wants to go back to that?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Love the blog, BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear that many folks see through the Clintons&#8217; BS scheme.  I think this incident reminds people of all the stuff they couldn&#8217;t stand about the Clintons&#8211;the drama, the scandals, etc.  Who wants to go back to that?</p>
<p>Love the blog, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot.  I was watching Washington Journal this morning on cspan.  the question was if Clinton or Obama was playing the race card.&lt;br/&gt;Mostly whites - especially indies and democrats, called in.&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d say about 90%+ said this was Hillary and her surrogates doing it to take down Obama.&lt;br/&gt;So, it seems alot of whites have already figured out the game and know what Hillary is up to and they are not buying it.&lt;br/&gt;Seems the only people who are are the people already supporting Hillary.  And even among supporters, she&#039;s lost a few judging from comments on other sites.&lt;br/&gt;Most say they will not vote for her if she is the nominee.&lt;br/&gt;Thought you might like to know that Hillary&#039;s plan to drive away white indies backfired and stuck to her and not Obama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot.  I was watching Washington Journal this morning on cspan.  the question was if Clinton or Obama was playing the race card.<br />Mostly whites &#8211; especially indies and democrats, called in.<br />I&#8217;d say about 90%+ said this was Hillary and her surrogates doing it to take down Obama.<br />So, it seems alot of whites have already figured out the game and know what Hillary is up to and they are not buying it.<br />Seems the only people who are are the people already supporting Hillary.  And even among supporters, she&#8217;s lost a few judging from comments on other sites.<br />Most say they will not vote for her if she is the nominee.<br />Thought you might like to know that Hillary&#8217;s plan to drive away white indies backfired and stuck to her and not Obama</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Lizza has an essay in the New Yorker.  At the end of the piece he writes that the Clintons see that the Latinos are the fastest growing minority and they want to lasso them in to their machine.&lt;br/&gt;Latinos are nostalgic for the 90s and would love to go back to the future rather than go forward.&lt;br/&gt;So, the Clintons and their pollsters have made the calculation to basically throw african americans under the bus to get the latinos in their camp.&lt;br/&gt;So, start a racebaiting thing and not only do they paint Obama as a stereotype that plays into the very tensions between latinos and african amnericans, but, keeps them away and therefore unable to be moved by Obama and his appeal.&lt;br/&gt;My question is if this is indeed what the Clintons are doing, then it&#039;s obviously not a secret.  So, why are so many black pols standing by them and willing to destroy their credibility and self respect to go out and lie and attack Sen. Obama?  People like Tubbs Jones, Rangel, Jackson Lee, ect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Lizza has an essay in the New Yorker.  At the end of the piece he writes that the Clintons see that the Latinos are the fastest growing minority and they want to lasso them in to their machine.<br />Latinos are nostalgic for the 90s and would love to go back to the future rather than go forward.<br />So, the Clintons and their pollsters have made the calculation to basically throw african americans under the bus to get the latinos in their camp.<br />So, start a racebaiting thing and not only do they paint Obama as a stereotype that plays into the very tensions between latinos and african amnericans, but, keeps them away and therefore unable to be moved by Obama and his appeal.<br />My question is if this is indeed what the Clintons are doing, then it&#8217;s obviously not a secret.  So, why are so many black pols standing by them and willing to destroy their credibility and self respect to go out and lie and attack Sen. Obama?  People like Tubbs Jones, Rangel, Jackson Lee, ect.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seaberry:  &#039;they want to abolish individualism and replace it with a &quot;folk community&quot;&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is why I&#039;m against football and other collectivist sports. These sports diminish the individual and brainwash people into supporting collectives, universal health care, and the obvious next step: Nazi death camps for minorities and liberals. Oh, wait, the minorities and liberals &lt;i&gt;are Nazis&lt;/i&gt;...or something... Anyways, I only play golf. Football, baseball, and basketball (tennis is iffy) promote socialism, which as we all know, is fascism. Black is also white. And up is down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seaberry:  &#8216;they want to abolish individualism and replace it with a &#8220;folk community&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;m against football and other collectivist sports. These sports diminish the individual and brainwash people into supporting collectives, universal health care, and the obvious next step: Nazi death camps for minorities and liberals. Oh, wait, the minorities and liberals <i>are Nazis</i>&#8230;or something&#8230; Anyways, I only play golf. Football, baseball, and basketball (tennis is iffy) promote socialism, which as we all know, is fascism. Black is also white. And up is down.</p>
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		<title>By: terriblist</title>
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		<dc:creator>terriblist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individualism: &quot;Socialism, Communism, and Fascism are &#039;Three-Peas-in-the-same-Pod&#039;..&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good boy, you&#039;ve done the required Party Reading for the day, Mr. Goldberg&#039;s &quot;Liberal Fascism.&quot; A loyal Comrade like you will rise HIGH in the Party. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You successfully painted the traitorous Democratic Party with a sufficiently broad brush to connect it to both Stalin and Hitler, two mortal enemies from the Last Great War. Truly a rhetorical and logical feat. Thank you Comrade. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Herr Rove</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individualism: &#8220;Socialism, Communism, and Fascism are &#8216;Three-Peas-in-the-same-Pod&#8217;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Good boy, you&#8217;ve done the required Party Reading for the day, Mr. Goldberg&#8217;s &#8220;Liberal Fascism.&#8221; A loyal Comrade like you will rise HIGH in the Party. </p>
<p>You successfully painted the traitorous Democratic Party with a sufficiently broad brush to connect it to both Stalin and Hitler, two mortal enemies from the Last Great War. Truly a rhetorical and logical feat. Thank you Comrade. </p>
<p>-Herr Rove</p>
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		<title>By: baltogeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>baltogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way in hell I will be voting for Hillary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My objection before was political.  She and her husband have always been too quick to adopt GOP strategies and ideas when it suited them politically.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And as an African-American, between Ricky Ray Rector, Sister Soulja, welfare reform and all the other bullshit they&#039;ve pulled on our community there was no way in good conscience I could vote for her.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She&#039;s essentially a Republican.  A moderate Republican perhaps but a typical Republican who is perfectly happy running over any black or brown person to get more votes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(Wait till the western states open up you know she&#039;s going to try to stir up a fight between blacks and Latinos)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This new shit has just made me angrier.  I don&#039;t care who the Republicans are running in the general election, I&#039;ll vote for the Dems in the local and state elections and for president if that two-faced liar is the nominee I&#039;m writing in Shirley Chisolm&#039;s name a real feminist and a real fighter for change.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fuck Hillary and Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way in hell I will be voting for Hillary.</p>
<p>My objection before was political.  She and her husband have always been too quick to adopt GOP strategies and ideas when it suited them politically.</p>
<p>And as an African-American, between Ricky Ray Rector, Sister Soulja, welfare reform and all the other bullshit they&#8217;ve pulled on our community there was no way in good conscience I could vote for her.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s essentially a Republican.  A moderate Republican perhaps but a typical Republican who is perfectly happy running over any black or brown person to get more votes.</p>
<p>(Wait till the western states open up you know she&#8217;s going to try to stir up a fight between blacks and Latinos)</p>
<p>This new shit has just made me angrier.  I don&#8217;t care who the Republicans are running in the general election, I&#8217;ll vote for the Dems in the local and state elections and for president if that two-faced liar is the nominee I&#8217;m writing in Shirley Chisolm&#8217;s name a real feminist and a real fighter for change.</p>
<p>Fuck Hillary and Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ibn Warraq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ibn Warraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not black, but I&#039;m an Iranian-American and would love to see this country have it&#039;s first non-white candidate, and right now I wouldn&#039;t vote for Hillary Clinton after the crap she&#039;s pulled unless she makes Obama her VP.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In fact I would go on to say all fair-minded people, regardless of their race or religion should refuse to vote for Hillary after the kind of campaign she&#039;s run.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Beyond that, while I&#039;m not a Republican, what would be so horrible about either McCain or Huckabee. I&#039;m not a fan of Huckabee&#039;s politics or the his talk about changing the Constitution to fit God&#039;s standards(my parents came to the US to get away from that kind of thinking) but in his last election to Governor, he got 40% of the black vote, so clearly a lot of black people are familiar with him and don&#039;t have a problem with him.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I certainly find him preferable to either Giuliani or Romney both of whom seem to support torture and expanding the curtailment of our civil liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not black, but I&#8217;m an Iranian-American and would love to see this country have it&#8217;s first non-white candidate, and right now I wouldn&#8217;t vote for Hillary Clinton after the crap she&#8217;s pulled unless she makes Obama her VP.</p>
<p>In fact I would go on to say all fair-minded people, regardless of their race or religion should refuse to vote for Hillary after the kind of campaign she&#8217;s run.</p>
<p>Beyond that, while I&#8217;m not a Republican, what would be so horrible about either McCain or Huckabee. I&#8217;m not a fan of Huckabee&#8217;s politics or the his talk about changing the Constitution to fit God&#8217;s standards(my parents came to the US to get away from that kind of thinking) but in his last election to Governor, he got 40% of the black vote, so clearly a lot of black people are familiar with him and don&#8217;t have a problem with him.</p>
<p>I certainly find him preferable to either Giuliani or Romney both of whom seem to support torture and expanding the curtailment of our civil liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Robert Johnson, she doesn&#039;t care what the black community might think of him; that isn&#039;t why she is using him. She is playing to whites here. They don&#039;t know who the f*ck he is. They just know some powerful black guy is slamming Obama. Then they see a bunch of &quot;angry Negroes&quot; on TV debating race and coke use. This is exactly what Hillary wants. It doesn&#039;t matter what they say. It is the imagery she is banking on. Race card 101.  This doesn&#039;t make the Hillary camp &quot;racist,&quot; just shameless and no better than the GOP. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wouldn&#039;t vote for Hillary if she were the last Democrat on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Robert Johnson, she doesn&#8217;t care what the black community might think of him; that isn&#8217;t why she is using him. She is playing to whites here. They don&#8217;t know who the f*ck he is. They just know some powerful black guy is slamming Obama. Then they see a bunch of &#8220;angry Negroes&#8221; on TV debating race and coke use. This is exactly what Hillary wants. It doesn&#8217;t matter what they say. It is the imagery she is banking on. Race card 101.  This doesn&#8217;t make the Hillary camp &#8220;racist,&#8221; just shameless and no better than the GOP. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t vote for Hillary if she were the last Democrat on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Nedsdag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nedsdag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary Clinton has to EARN my vote, but in the past few weeks I have seen nothing to change my mind or my support for Obama. Is Obama perfect? Hell, no, but he&#039;s not the two faced schemer Mrs. Clinton has shown herself to be.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Having house negroes like Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Charlie Rangel go after Obama is making the situation worse. The Clintons both pandered for the black vote and taken it for granted as well. Not even &quot;black brotha&quot; Bill&#039;s K-Fed impersonation will bring me over to their side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Clinton has to EARN my vote, but in the past few weeks I have seen nothing to change my mind or my support for Obama. Is Obama perfect? Hell, no, but he&#8217;s not the two faced schemer Mrs. Clinton has shown herself to be.</p>
<p>Having house negroes like Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Charlie Rangel go after Obama is making the situation worse. The Clintons both pandered for the black vote and taken it for granted as well. Not even &#8220;black brotha&#8221; Bill&#8217;s K-Fed impersonation will bring me over to their side.</p>
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		<title>By: natthedem</title>
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		<dc:creator>natthedem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hillary Clinton somehow race baits her way to the Democratic nomination, my plan of action is as follows: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1. Change my party affiliation&lt;br/&gt;2. Get a new URL for my website&lt;br/&gt;3. Join &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/15/580114.aspx&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this effort&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hillary Clinton somehow race baits her way to the Democratic nomination, my plan of action is as follows: </p>
<p>1. Change my party affiliation<br />2. Get a new URL for my website<br />3. Join <a HREF="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/15/580114.aspx" REL="nofollow">this effort</a></p>
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		<title>By: scooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from what I read about Bob Johnson, I wonder what he&#039;s doing hanging out with a supposed liberal, and what the supposed liberal is doing hanging out with Bob Johnson.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But then, this is the campaign that hired Mark Penn, CEO of Burson-Marsteller.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wasn&#039;t ever going to vote for Clinton. It&#039;s just getting too much like royalty to have it all in the family all of the time. She sure is making it easier not to vote for her.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll vote green or take a hard look at Bloomberg. My bet is he jumps in if Clinton gets the nomination. Way out here on the left coast I don&#039;t know much about the mayor of New York City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from what I read about Bob Johnson, I wonder what he&#8217;s doing hanging out with a supposed liberal, and what the supposed liberal is doing hanging out with Bob Johnson.</p>
<p>But then, this is the campaign that hired Mark Penn, CEO of Burson-Marsteller.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t ever going to vote for Clinton. It&#8217;s just getting too much like royalty to have it all in the family all of the time. She sure is making it easier not to vote for her.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll vote green or take a hard look at Bloomberg. My bet is he jumps in if Clinton gets the nomination. Way out here on the left coast I don&#8217;t know much about the mayor of New York City.</p>
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		<title>By: ronnie b.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronnie b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If Obama doesn&#039;t win the nomination, he shouldn&#039;t accept the VP nomination. Clinton will lose without him on the ticket, and he&#039;ll be the nominee in waiting after that.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If -- &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; -- Obama does not get the nomination, I think he may be hard pressed to accept a VP offer from Clinton; he would be effectively endorsing the very politics that he&#039;s campaigning against.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But with each passing day, and with more and more people discovering what the Clintons are all about, he&#039;ll win the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If Obama doesn&#8217;t win the nomination, he shouldn&#8217;t accept the VP nomination. Clinton will lose without him on the ticket, and he&#8217;ll be the nominee in waiting after that.</i></p>
<p>If &#8212; <i>if</i> &#8212; Obama does not get the nomination, I think he may be hard pressed to accept a VP offer from Clinton; he would be effectively endorsing the very politics that he&#8217;s campaigning against.  </p>
<p>But with each passing day, and with more and more people discovering what the Clintons are all about, he&#8217;ll win the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squarepeg,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Barak Obama represents a change from the status quo. The status quo is Hillary and...you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squarepeg,</p>
<p>Barak Obama represents a change from the status quo. The status quo is Hillary and&#8230;you.</p>
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		<title>By: SquarePeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>SquarePeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seaberry,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please go back to the Ron Paul web page.  You asked why the focus on Black, White, Black White.  Hellooo.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That is what the discussion is about, and if you didn&#039;t know it.  This is a black blog with a black perspective.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Too many people died for us to be able to vote so IF Hillary were THE candidate, I would vote for her, otherwise we play into the hands of many of these people try to persuade us to stay home.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One way or the other we have to make the decision for our future and our children&#039;s futures.  Its not all about us but them and I mean ALL of our children.  Whether we like it or not, we do have a choice and for me it could never be the selfish, mean-spirited, racist Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seaberry,</p>
<p>Please go back to the Ron Paul web page.  You asked why the focus on Black, White, Black White.  Hellooo.</p>
<p>That is what the discussion is about, and if you didn&#8217;t know it.  This is a black blog with a black perspective.</p>
<p>Too many people died for us to be able to vote so IF Hillary were THE candidate, I would vote for her, otherwise we play into the hands of many of these people try to persuade us to stay home.</p>
<p>One way or the other we have to make the decision for our future and our children&#8217;s futures.  Its not all about us but them and I mean ALL of our children.  Whether we like it or not, we do have a choice and for me it could never be the selfish, mean-spirited, racist Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bag of Health and Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bag of Health and Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama doesn&#039;t win the nomination, he shouldn&#039;t accept the VP nomination. Clinton will lose without him on the ticket, and he&#039;ll be the nominee in waiting after that. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That said, he would be in the position to make a deal, but one that benefits him: one-term and I run with you. That would be one worth considering, but it&#039;s also risky. If Clinton screws things up and is unpopular in 4 years, he&#039;ll have a hard time winning. That&#039;s why I think he should say no to the VP nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama doesn&#8217;t win the nomination, he shouldn&#8217;t accept the VP nomination. Clinton will lose without him on the ticket, and he&#8217;ll be the nominee in waiting after that. </p>
<p>That said, he would be in the position to make a deal, but one that benefits him: one-term and I run with you. That would be one worth considering, but it&#8217;s also risky. If Clinton screws things up and is unpopular in 4 years, he&#8217;ll have a hard time winning. That&#8217;s why I think he should say no to the VP nomination.</p>
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