Comments on: Edwards Walks the Line in Support of the Writer’s Strike http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/11/edwards-walks-the-line-in-support-of-the-writers-strike/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:12:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: cc http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/11/edwards-walks-the-line-in-support-of-the-writers-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-1764 cc Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:07:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=626#comment-1764 Edwards is my guy who I would love see in the general election. I like Edwards position on health care and my all time favorite is affordable college tuition. He has been out front on all issues instead of sticking his finger into the wind to see where the wind blows. Edwards is my guy who I would love see in the general election. I like Edwards position on health care and my all time favorite is affordable college tuition. He has been out front on all issues instead of sticking his finger into the wind to see where the wind blows.

]]> By: rikyrah http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/11/edwards-walks-the-line-in-support-of-the-writers-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-1760 rikyrah Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:17:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=626#comment-1760 <i>I wish we could do the bait and switch so familiar to black males trying to get a cab. Send Edwards out to hail the votes, but once the count is done, Obama slips in, like SIKE!!<br/><br/>Anyway, one can hope right?<br/></i><br/><br/>Jack,<br/><br/>You crack me up. I'm feeling you, though. <br/><br/>I don't think it's over in Iowa. I think it's interesting that it's so competitive. <br/><br/>But, I'm going to keep on pushing Obama. <br/><br/><br/>I admit that if Obama weren't in, I'd be supporting Edwards. But, Obama is in, so I'm supporting him. Edwards is not a bad guy. I wish we could do the bait and switch so familiar to black males trying to get a cab. Send Edwards out to hail the votes, but once the count is done, Obama slips in, like SIKE!!

Anyway, one can hope right?

Jack,

You crack me up. I’m feeling you, though.

I don’t think it’s over in Iowa. I think it’s interesting that it’s so competitive.

But, I’m going to keep on pushing Obama.

I admit that if Obama weren’t in, I’d be supporting Edwards. But, Obama is in, so I’m supporting him. Edwards is not a bad guy.

]]> By: AgentX http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/11/edwards-walks-the-line-in-support-of-the-writers-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-1759 AgentX Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:12:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=626#comment-1759 I am not 100% sold on Edwards, but if he won a few primaries than maybe I'd believe him a little better.<br/>That said, he is nowhere near perfect, but at least he is out there.<br/>Is it disingenuous to be marching out there for writers on strike when his old hedge fund probably invests in the companies that forced the writers to strike? Perhaps, but hedge fund managers aren't exactly the type to listen to reason...so Edwards is having his cake and eating it too. <br/>"He sees Edwards benefiting from the same "electability math" when people realize they don't really think the country will vote for a woman or a black man." <br/>This part is disturbing on 2 levels.<br/>1) John Edwards has already stated that people who aren't willing to vote or a woman or a minority should not vote for him. So he already throws them out as well. Other white candidates have not made such statements, and a candidate cannot exactly stop a person from voting for them.<br/>2) The same math is what led to Bush winning all those red states, so the "math" can backfire, especially if Republicans pull out another "Willie Horton" card. <br/><br/>That being said, Edwards CAN win a general election and he can be reasoned with. The Republicans cannot be reasoned with, or act in the best interests of everything in this nation. <br/>Mitt Romney is out there making racist statements (ok, it involves Muslims, but still), Giuliani is so corrupt it's unbelievable AND he is in bed with FOX News- perhaps the MOST anti-black news agency ever. Huckabee represents the Christian Right-Wing Fundamentalists (and we know how THEY feel about black people), Paul is supported (unwillingly) by the white supremacist movement, McCain has no respect for women or cancer survivors, Tom Tancredo (who actually showed up to the NAACP forum) is running only on 1 issue, and Alan Keyes is only running so white suburbanites won't think the GOP is full of racists. <br/>Will all that in mind, why should it be no surprise that 90% of black people won't vote for a Republican. I am not 100% sold on Edwards, but if he won a few primaries than maybe I’d believe him a little better.
That said, he is nowhere near perfect, but at least he is out there.
Is it disingenuous to be marching out there for writers on strike when his old hedge fund probably invests in the companies that forced the writers to strike? Perhaps, but hedge fund managers aren’t exactly the type to listen to reason…so Edwards is having his cake and eating it too.
“He sees Edwards benefiting from the same “electability math” when people realize they don’t really think the country will vote for a woman or a black man.”
This part is disturbing on 2 levels.
1) John Edwards has already stated that people who aren’t willing to vote or a woman or a minority should not vote for him. So he already throws them out as well. Other white candidates have not made such statements, and a candidate cannot exactly stop a person from voting for them.
2) The same math is what led to Bush winning all those red states, so the “math” can backfire, especially if Republicans pull out another “Willie Horton” card.

That being said, Edwards CAN win a general election and he can be reasoned with. The Republicans cannot be reasoned with, or act in the best interests of everything in this nation.
Mitt Romney is out there making racist statements (ok, it involves Muslims, but still), Giuliani is so corrupt it’s unbelievable AND he is in bed with FOX News- perhaps the MOST anti-black news agency ever. Huckabee represents the Christian Right-Wing Fundamentalists (and we know how THEY feel about black people), Paul is supported (unwillingly) by the white supremacist movement, McCain has no respect for women or cancer survivors, Tom Tancredo (who actually showed up to the NAACP forum) is running only on 1 issue, and Alan Keyes is only running so white suburbanites won’t think the GOP is full of racists.
Will all that in mind, why should it be no surprise that 90% of black people won’t vote for a Republican.

]]> By: Francis L. Holland Blog http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/11/edwards-walks-the-line-in-support-of-the-writers-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-1758 Francis L. Holland Blog Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:11:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=626#comment-1758 I'd like to end the 43-term white-male monopoly of the presidency in 2008, and the latest poll from the <a HREF="http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/11/black_voters_tilt_toward_clinton_study.html" REL="nofollow">new Joint Center study</a> says that most Black people agree with me. Most Blacks prefer Clinton over Obama, and are not considering Edwards at all. <br/><br/>At the same time, African American Political Pundit has started a new <a HREF="http://aapoliticalpundit.blogspot.com/2007/11/news-update-black-accountability.html" REL="nofollow">Black Accountability Project</a> to keep an eye on Black organizations. What will that project do to make sure that AfroSpear advocacy in the presidential race reflects the views of most Black people as concerns Clinton and Obama? <br/><br/>Are we preparing to do over the next months that which most Black people want us to do? Or does our advocacy reflect what we want as individuals, and without regard to what most Black people want?<br/><br/>If history is any guide, Blacks will support the Democrat over the Republican in 2008 by a margin of 90% to 10%. That would seem to reflect a strong and uniform distaste for having a Republican elected.<br/><br/>So, what's the AfroSpear going to do about that? As a group, is it enough to just watch from the sidelines and <strong>hope</strong> that a Republican is not elected, or do we have to take affirmative steps to make sure that doesn't happen? If we have to take affirmative steps, what should those steps be? What are the demands of political accountability for the AfroSpear in the 2008 primaries and the final election? I’d like to end the 43-term white-male monopoly of the presidency in 2008, and the latest poll from the new Joint Center study says that most Black people agree with me. Most Blacks prefer Clinton over Obama, and are not considering Edwards at all.

At the same time, African American Political Pundit has started a new Black Accountability Project to keep an eye on Black organizations. What will that project do to make sure that AfroSpear advocacy in the presidential race reflects the views of most Black people as concerns Clinton and Obama?

Are we preparing to do over the next months that which most Black people want us to do? Or does our advocacy reflect what we want as individuals, and without regard to what most Black people want?

If history is any guide, Blacks will support the Democrat over the Republican in 2008 by a margin of 90% to 10%. That would seem to reflect a strong and uniform distaste for having a Republican elected.

So, what’s the AfroSpear going to do about that? As a group, is it enough to just watch from the sidelines and hope that a Republican is not elected, or do we have to take affirmative steps to make sure that doesn’t happen? If we have to take affirmative steps, what should those steps be? What are the demands of political accountability for the AfroSpear in the 2008 primaries and the final election?

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