<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Why are the CBC Fox Debates so important?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:07:03 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Prestashop Templates</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-1051209</link> <dc:creator>Prestashop Templates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:27:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-1051209</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Websites You Should Visit...&lt;/strong&gt;[...]very few websites that happen to be detailed below, from our point of view are undoubtedly well worth checking out[...]...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Websites You Should Visit&#8230;</strong></p><p>[...]very few websites that happen to be detailed below, from our point of view are undoubtedly well worth checking out[...]&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darryl</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link> <dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-707</guid> <description>&gt;&quot;And a new generation that demands more of its black leaders than the fact they are black.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am in complete agreement with you about the need to keep the pressure on the CBC Institute and its decision to partner with Fox News. I disagree with you, however, with regard to your assertion that there is a &quot;new generation that demands more of black  leaders than the fact they are black.&quot; This is a myth.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There has always been a measurable portion of the black American polity that has demanded more substance than symbolism from black elected officials and other black leaders. The problem is that their voices, by and large, were rendered mute because they lacked access to the media or technologically advanced mediums like the Internet did not exist.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In addition, if they were able to make their opinions heard above the din, many of the media outlets that now incorrectly posit the existence of a black Civil Rights generation and a black post-Civil Rights generation marginalized them and their comments by labeling them as &quot;radicals&quot; etc. The reality is that dissident voices have always been part of black political expression and activity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Those of us who are older than than those of you who believe the world may be knew have always spoken out when we felt that traditional black leadership was failing to address the community&#039;s issues and needs.  There is a younger generation of African Americans who want to make sure that their voices are heard and not ignored. I will do everything I can do to support their efforts but they are part of a long tradition in the black community.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>&#8221;And a new generation that demands more of its black leaders than the fact they are black.&#8221;</p><p>I am in complete agreement with you about the need to keep the pressure on the CBC Institute and its decision to partner with Fox News. I disagree with you, however, with regard to your assertion that there is a &#8220;new generation that demands more of black  leaders than the fact they are black.&#8221; This is a myth.</p><p>There has always been a measurable portion of the black American polity that has demanded more substance than symbolism from black elected officials and other black leaders. The problem is that their voices, by and large, were rendered mute because they lacked access to the media or technologically advanced mediums like the Internet did not exist.</p><p>In addition, if they were able to make their opinions heard above the din, many of the media outlets that now incorrectly posit the existence of a black Civil Rights generation and a black post-Civil Rights generation marginalized them and their comments by labeling them as &#8220;radicals&#8221; etc. The reality is that dissident voices have always been part of black political expression and activity.</p><p>Those of us who are older than than those of you who believe the world may be knew have always spoken out when we felt that traditional black leadership was failing to address the community&#8217;s issues and needs.  There is a younger generation of African Americans who want to make sure that their voices are heard and not ignored. I will do everything I can do to support their efforts but they are part of a long tradition in the black community.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gem2001</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link> <dc:creator>gem2001</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-705</guid> <description>OH no. I am not giving up on blogging, just this whole progressive blogosphere &quot;diversity&quot; issue. We just need to establish our own cyber-infrastructure.  To the extent that they want to include Black folks, its to the extent that they know they will eventually be marginalized in democratic politics.  There is only so far you can go without African American support in a Democratic primary.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH no. I am not giving up on blogging, just this whole progressive blogosphere &#8220;diversity&#8221; issue. We just need to establish our own cyber-infrastructure.  To the extent that they want to include Black folks, its to the extent that they know they will eventually be marginalized in democratic politics.  There is only so far you can go without African American support in a Democratic primary.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JBS</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-692</link> <dc:creator>JBS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-692</guid> <description>Just keep up the pressure on the CBC-- there is no fairness and balance from Fox.  Why collaborate to give them an audience to disrespect us further? That would be nuts. No compliance here!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep up the pressure on the CBC&#8211; there is no fairness and balance from Fox.  Why collaborate to give them an audience to disrespect us further? That would be nuts. No compliance here!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:14:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-690</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;Speaking of clueless. MyDD has yet ANOTHER post on &quot;diversity&quot; My comments are here&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was mildly offended by the implication that &quot;minority&quot; bloggers need a handout from the &quot;progressive&quot; blogosphere. &quot;Progressives&quot; love po&#039; folks and Black folks, but manage to forget them most of the time unless: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;a) there is a crisis, b)Black bloggers provide cover to attack other black folks, c)Black bloggers can be used as weapons to attack Republicans, or d) there is an election.&lt;br/&gt;Rikyrah is right to say they are clueless. I too am giving up. Maybe the divide is too wide that we are doomed to get lost in translation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gem,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am feeling you, but I hope you&#039;re not giving up on Black Blogging. We need you there. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you&#039;re giving up on the entire  &#039;diversity&#039; in the blogosphere thing, I feel you, but I tell you not to give up there either. Just post what you post, and that&#039;s all you need to do, IMO. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I love the idea about the PAC. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But, to be honest, they&#039;re clueless, until after the #*@&amp; hit the fan. I take the whole Shequanda Cotton story..they were a day late, and a dollar short in noticing what happened there. Another one was the entire &#039;Obama disses his pastor&#039; - that had been thrashed around for weeks before they even had a clue, and only got a clue because of a printed letter by Dr. Wright in the NYTimes. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe they are late to the CBC/Fox thing too. We must do what is best FOR US. If they come late to the game, oh well. But, just let it go - that frustration.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Speaking of clueless. MyDD has yet ANOTHER post on &#8220;diversity&#8221; My comments are here</p><p>I was mildly offended by the implication that &#8220;minority&#8221; bloggers need a handout from the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogosphere. &#8220;Progressives&#8221; love po&#8217; folks and Black folks, but manage to forget them most of the time unless:</p><p>a) there is a crisis, b)Black bloggers provide cover to attack other black folks, c)Black bloggers can be used as weapons to attack Republicans, or d) there is an election.<br />Rikyrah is right to say they are clueless. I too am giving up. Maybe the divide is too wide that we are doomed to get lost in translation.</i></p><p>Gem,</p><p>I am feeling you, but I hope you&#8217;re not giving up on Black Blogging. We need you there.</p><p>If you&#8217;re giving up on the entire  &#8216;diversity&#8217; in the blogosphere thing, I feel you, but I tell you not to give up there either. Just post what you post, and that&#8217;s all you need to do, IMO.</p><p>I love the idea about the PAC.</p><p>But, to be honest, they&#8217;re clueless, until after the #*@&#038; hit the fan. I take the whole Shequanda Cotton story..they were a day late, and a dollar short in noticing what happened there. Another one was the entire &#8216;Obama disses his pastor&#8217; &#8211; that had been thrashed around for weeks before they even had a clue, and only got a clue because of a printed letter by Dr. Wright in the NYTimes.</p><p>I believe they are late to the CBC/Fox thing too. We must do what is best FOR US. If they come late to the game, oh well. But, just let it go &#8211; that frustration.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-689</guid> <description>Some more for the CBC/Faux News Mill grist:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;From Prometheus6:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1. Someone used &#039;Spearchucker&#039;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, as insults go, you gotta really THINK to get THAT one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/03/brit-hume-uses-the-racist-phrase-spearchucker-to-describe-john-glenn/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/03/brit-hume-uses-the-racist-phrase-spearchucker-to-describe-john-glenn/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2. Now, in going after Dollar Bill, see if you can&#039;t catch the slander of John Conyers&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.prometheus6.org/node/16798</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more for the CBC/Faux News Mill grist:</p><p>From Prometheus6:</p><p>1. Someone used &#8216;Spearchucker&#8217;.</p><p>Now, as insults go, you gotta really THINK to get THAT one.</p><p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/03/brit-hume-uses-the-racist-phrase-spearchucker-to-describe-john-glenn/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/03/brit-hume-uses-the-racist-phrase-spearchucker-to-describe-john-glenn/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/03/brit-hume-uses-the-racist-phrase-spearchucker-to-describe-john-glenn/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/03/brit-hume-uses-the-racist-phrase-spearchucker-to-describe-john-glenn/</a></p><p>2. Now, in going after Dollar Bill, see if you can&#8217;t catch the slander of John Conyers</p><p><a href="http://www.prometheus6.org/node/16798" rel="nofollow">http://www.prometheus6.org/node/16798</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Christian Progressive Liberal</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-680</link> <dc:creator>The Christian Progressive Liberal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-680</guid> <description>BREAKING:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;JEFFERSON TO BE INDICTED THIS AFTERNOON:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BREAKING:</p><p>JEFFERSON TO BE INDICTED THIS AFTERNOON:</p><p><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: g-e-m2001</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-678</link> <dc:creator>g-e-m2001</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-678</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;Now, THIS I get, but, I &#039;let it go&#039;, when I got involved with the Black Blogosphere. We have to do what is right FOR US. If they come along for the ride, ok, but I can&#039;t get too upset if they&#039;re clueless. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Speaking of clueless. MyDD has yet ANOTHER post on &quot;diversity&quot; My comments are here&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was mildly offended by the implication that &quot;minority&quot; bloggers need a handout from the &quot;progressive&quot; blogosphere. &quot;Progressives&quot; love po&#039; folks and Black folks, but manage to forget them most of the time unless: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;a) there is a crisis, b)Black bloggers provide cover to attack other black folks, c)Black bloggers can be used as weapons to attack Republicans, or d) there is an election.&lt;br/&gt;Rikyrah is right to say they are clueless. I too am giving up. Maybe the divide is too wide that we are doomed to get lost in translation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;P.S. I am down for the PAC ( We gon&#039; have to change the name) Maybe we need to set up an online conference call or chat about setting it up. We clearly need to construct our own infrastructure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;here is the link for my comment on MYDD&lt;br/&gt;http://mydd.com/comments/2007/6/3/162015/0085/15?mode=alone;showrate=1#15</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now, THIS I get, but, I &#8216;let it go&#8217;, when I got involved with the Black Blogosphere. We have to do what is right FOR US. If they come along for the ride, ok, but I can&#8217;t get too upset if they&#8217;re clueless. </i></p><p>Speaking of clueless. MyDD has yet ANOTHER post on &#8220;diversity&#8221; My comments are here</p><p>I was mildly offended by the implication that &#8220;minority&#8221; bloggers need a handout from the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogosphere. &#8220;Progressives&#8221; love po&#8217; folks and Black folks, but manage to forget them most of the time unless:</p><p>a) there is a crisis, b)Black bloggers provide cover to attack other black folks, c)Black bloggers can be used as weapons to attack Republicans, or d) there is an election.<br />Rikyrah is right to say they are clueless. I too am giving up. Maybe the divide is too wide that we are doomed to get lost in translation.</p><p>P.S. I am down for the PAC ( We gon&#8217; have to change the name) Maybe we need to set up an online conference call or chat about setting it up. We clearly need to construct our own infrastructure.</p><p>here is the link for my comment on MYDD<br /><a href="http://mydd.com/comments/2007/6/3/162015/0085/15?mode=alone;showrate=1#15" rel="nofollow">http://mydd.com/comments/2007/6/3/162015/0085/15?mode=alone;showrate=1#15</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: African American Political Pundit</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-677</link> <dc:creator>African American Political Pundit</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-677</guid> <description>Gem2001,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I mean couldn&#039;t black bloggers form a political action.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your on point. All of our bad talk about the CBC means nothing to them. Money talks. All Politics is local. Netroots get&#039;s it WE NEED TO.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m willing to work with anyone in the AfroSphere who is ready to plan for an AfroSphere Political Attion Committe (AfroSphere PAC).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Time is of the essence. If we really want to impact on the 2008 Presidential, and the upcoming congressional races. the Congressional FOX Caucus needs to be held acoountable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gem2001,</p><p>I mean couldn&#8217;t black bloggers form a political action.</p><p>Your on point. All of our bad talk about the CBC means nothing to them. Money talks. All Politics is local. Netroots get&#8217;s it WE NEED TO.</p><p>I&#8217;m willing to work with anyone in the AfroSphere who is ready to plan for an AfroSphere Political Attion Committe (AfroSphere PAC).</p><p>Time is of the essence. If we really want to impact on the 2008 Presidential, and the upcoming congressional races. the Congressional FOX Caucus needs to be held acoountable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: g-e-m2001</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-675</link> <dc:creator>g-e-m2001</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-675</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;As a first step we need to make sure that folk in their districts know about them stepping up for Fox News Channel .Many in the Black community may only see the AP accounts which plays down the Black discontent over some CBC members bending over for with Fox.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I mean couldn&#039;t black bloggers form a political action committee fund raise and run ads against them ourselves?  Before the primary season to encourage people to run against them?&lt;br/&gt;Who needs the NABJ.  If you can&#039;t get free press. Buy it! you only need one scathing ad and then it will get replayed over and over again.  And don&#039;t wait until campaign season.  There is nothing stopping us from running them before the filing deadlines.  We could call it the &quot;what have you done for me lately&quot; campaign.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As a first step we need to make sure that folk in their districts know about them stepping up for Fox News Channel .Many in the Black community may only see the AP accounts which plays down the Black discontent over some CBC members bending over for with Fox.</i><br />I mean couldn&#8217;t black bloggers form a political action committee fund raise and run ads against them ourselves?  Before the primary season to encourage people to run against them?<br />Who needs the NABJ.  If you can&#8217;t get free press. Buy it! you only need one scathing ad and then it will get replayed over and over again.  And don&#8217;t wait until campaign season.  There is nothing stopping us from running them before the filing deadlines.  We could call it the &#8220;what have you done for me lately&#8221; campaign.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-673</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;I guess part of my frustration is that the &quot;progressive&quot; blogosphere doesn&#039;t seem to be willing to trot out links to African American bloggers unless it suits their purposes. They aren&#039;t particularly interested in the plights of African Americans, only in defeating their enemy Fox News. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, THIS I get, but, I &#039;let it go&#039;, when I got involved with the Black Blogosphere. We have to do what is right FOR US. If they come along for the ride, ok, but I can&#039;t get too upset if they&#039;re clueless.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I guess part of my frustration is that the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogosphere doesn&#8217;t seem to be willing to trot out links to African American bloggers unless it suits their purposes. They aren&#8217;t particularly interested in the plights of African Americans, only in defeating their enemy Fox News. <br /></i></p><p>Now, THIS I get, but, I &#8216;let it go&#8217;, when I got involved with the Black Blogosphere. We have to do what is right FOR US. If they come along for the ride, ok, but I can&#8217;t get too upset if they&#8217;re clueless.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-672</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-672</guid> <description>Re: Finding primary candidates to challenge the CBC members that supported the debate.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a first step we need to make sure that folk in their districts know about them stepping up for Fox News Channel .Many in the Black community may only  see the AP accounts which plays  down the Black discontent over some CBC members bending over for with Fox. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyone know where the NABJ  is on this ? It ain’t like they got big job prospects on FNC but News Corp also owns Fox Broadcasting  which may NABJ members doing local morning and the 10 PM News Shows .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Finding primary candidates to challenge the CBC members that supported the debate.</p><p>As a first step we need to make sure that folk in their districts know about them stepping up for Fox News Channel .Many in the Black community may only  see the AP accounts which plays  down the Black discontent over some CBC members bending over for with Fox.</p><p>Anyone know where the NABJ  is on this ? It ain’t like they got big job prospects on FNC but News Corp also owns Fox Broadcasting  which may NABJ members doing local morning and the 10 PM News Shows .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gem2001</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-671</link> <dc:creator>Gem2001</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 08:33:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-671</guid> <description>I&#039;m sorry.  I get it. I get it. As an activist blogger, I understand the need to keep a campaign going and maintain focus when other people are running around doing other things.  The CBC debate is just as important as any of the things I focus on on my blog.  &lt;br/&gt;I guess part of my frustration is that the &quot;progressive&quot; blogosphere doesn&#039;t seem to be willing to trot out links to African American bloggers unless it suits their purposes.  They aren&#039;t particularly interested in the plights of African Americans, only in defeating their enemy Fox News. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So part of my criticism was probably directed at you because I also visit their sites and I was thinking &quot; They are posting on this by the hour, but all these other issues get no play at all on their sites.&quot; So the victory lap that they were running at the time about  all of the major candidates dropping out just seemed as gratuitous exploitation.  The hypocrisy was just chafing me.  I don&#039;t think those progressive bloggers care all that much about black folks issues anymore than they accuse Faux News of being. In sum, what did Black blogs receive in return for providing cover to white progressive bloggers and indirectly top tier presidential candidates?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I understand the need to celebrate your victories.  You put hours and days and months into blogging and sometimes you wonder if you are making an impact and so when you do make an impact, I think it is legitimate to celebrate all victories large and small.  I&#039;m sure people think I harp on issues for too long as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are three lessons I have taken out of this.&lt;br/&gt;African American bloggers need to hold elected officials accountable.  I hope everyone who worked on this Fox campaign also works on finding primary candidates to challenge the CBC members that supported the debate.  The only way to make CBC members more accountable and responsible to African.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep up the good work!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What About Our Daughters &lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry.  I get it. I get it. As an activist blogger, I understand the need to keep a campaign going and maintain focus when other people are running around doing other things.  The CBC debate is just as important as any of the things I focus on on my blog. <br />I guess part of my frustration is that the &#8220;progressive&#8221; blogosphere doesn&#8217;t seem to be willing to trot out links to African American bloggers unless it suits their purposes.  They aren&#8217;t particularly interested in the plights of African Americans, only in defeating their enemy Fox News.</p><p>So part of my criticism was probably directed at you because I also visit their sites and I was thinking &#8221; They are posting on this by the hour, but all these other issues get no play at all on their sites.&#8221; So the victory lap that they were running at the time about  all of the major candidates dropping out just seemed as gratuitous exploitation.  The hypocrisy was just chafing me.  I don&#8217;t think those progressive bloggers care all that much about black folks issues anymore than they accuse Faux News of being. In sum, what did Black blogs receive in return for providing cover to white progressive bloggers and indirectly top tier presidential candidates?</p><p>But I understand the need to celebrate your victories.  You put hours and days and months into blogging and sometimes you wonder if you are making an impact and so when you do make an impact, I think it is legitimate to celebrate all victories large and small.  I&#8217;m sure people think I harp on issues for too long as well.</p><p>There are three lessons I have taken out of this.<br />African American bloggers need to hold elected officials accountable.  I hope everyone who worked on this Fox campaign also works on finding primary candidates to challenge the CBC members that supported the debate.  The only way to make CBC members more accountable and responsible to African.</p><p>Keep up the good work!</p><p><a HREF="http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">What About Our Daughters </a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-670</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-670</guid> <description>This is about accountability. If they can&#039;t be accountable about this, then what WILL they be accountable for?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How could you think about legitimizing a media outlet that is outfront in their disrespect. No benign neglect here, their hostility is out in the open.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is about accountability. If they can&#8217;t be accountable about this, then what WILL they be accountable for?</p><p>How could you think about legitimizing a media outlet that is outfront in their disrespect. No benign neglect here, their hostility is out in the open.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brandon Q.</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/06/why-are-the-cbc-fox-debates-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-667</link> <dc:creator>Brandon Q.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=327#comment-667</guid> <description>Well said Jill, I will be there with you every step of the way. I would add that perhaps too many of us want change that can be placed in a microwave for two minutes. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The type of change we all want will take an enormous amount of persistence  to see our goals through the end. This type of persistence doesn&#039;t complain by having the BLESSING of reading compelling commentary by brilliant Black people! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s remember where we came from and realize that our current freedoms opportunities are a culmination of small victories (most of them arduous, mundane, and forgotten) that our people fought and died for. We are wining and getting tired because there are bigger issues to discuss is lazy, as if to say we can&#039;t do both!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That is what sites like this have done and will continue to do. So if you are tired, I would suggest eating some Wheaties because a little more mental and emotional stamina wouldn&#039;t hurt,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With love,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Stay up fam, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Brandon Q.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Jill, I will be there with you every step of the way. I would add that perhaps too many of us want change that can be placed in a microwave for two minutes.</p><p>The type of change we all want will take an enormous amount of persistence  to see our goals through the end. This type of persistence doesn&#8217;t complain by having the BLESSING of reading compelling commentary by brilliant Black people!</p><p>Let&#8217;s remember where we came from and realize that our current freedoms opportunities are a culmination of small victories (most of them arduous, mundane, and forgotten) that our people fought and died for. We are wining and getting tired because there are bigger issues to discuss is lazy, as if to say we can&#8217;t do both!</p><p>That is what sites like this have done and will continue to do. So if you are tired, I would suggest eating some Wheaties because a little more mental and emotional stamina wouldn&#8217;t hurt,</p><p>With love,</p><p>Stay up fam,</p><p>Brandon Q.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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