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	<title>Comments on: What Do Straight Man Mag Maxim and Lesbian Website AfterEllen Have In Common?</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Godfrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Godfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to carney-bark my own blog, but I got into a somewhat similar theme on the topic of Baltimore Magazine two weeks ago.  Baltimore Magazine is a magazine primarily for non-Baltimore City-resident affluent white suburbanites.  Its recent spread on Baltimore Women in Business featured photo spreads on 1 or at most 2 African-American women out of about 63, which would be pretty fair if Baltimore were the largest city in Iceland, not Maryland&#039;s 2/3 African-American largest city.  Even the suburban counties are 13-25% African-American, but this magazine&#039;s demographic really wants to see white faces only, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to carney-bark my own blog, but I got into a somewhat similar theme on the topic of Baltimore Magazine two weeks ago.  Baltimore Magazine is a magazine primarily for non-Baltimore City-resident affluent white suburbanites.  Its recent spread on Baltimore Women in Business featured photo spreads on 1 or at most 2 African-American women out of about 63, which would be pretty fair if Baltimore were the largest city in Iceland, not Maryland&#8217;s 2/3 African-American largest city.  Even the suburban counties are 13-25% African-American, but this magazine&#8217;s demographic really wants to see white faces only, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeland Colors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeland Colors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just think that white girls sell more magazines to white guys so they put more white girls in it to make more money.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;re doing it on purpose or with ill intent, i just think they&#039;re trying to make a profit.  I just figure, buy a black magazine, there are black girls in it and i&#039;ll be supporting a black business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just think that white girls sell more magazines to white guys so they put more white girls in it to make more money.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re doing it on purpose or with ill intent, i just think they&#8217;re trying to make a profit.  I just figure, buy a black magazine, there are black girls in it and i&#8217;ll be supporting a black business.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t really see how one can find racism in this.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tell me how you have proof that there is racism involved with the decisions, and if you can&#039;t, tell me how this would be racist?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would put one woman in my 10 favorite athletes, does that make me sexist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t really see how one can find racism in this.</p>
<p>Tell me how you have proof that there is racism involved with the decisions, and if you can&#8217;t, tell me how this would be racist?</p>
<p>I would put one woman in my 10 favorite athletes, does that make me sexist?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good gawd, why are people still trippin on this?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s not like light-complected Black folk are actually oppressing, holding down or otherwise discriminating against darker complected Black folk.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This subject matter is as old as negroes in America.  You mean to tell me that in 2007, people still harbor such petty jealousies?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good gawd, why are people still trippin on this?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like light-complected Black folk are actually oppressing, holding down or otherwise discriminating against darker complected Black folk.  </p>
<p>This subject matter is as old as negroes in America.  You mean to tell me that in 2007, people still harbor such petty jealousies?  </p>
<p>Unreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, rikyrah...`sigh` here, too. Frankly, I don&#039;t especially care about Maxim&#039;s and AfterEllen&#039;s standards of black beauty, but I am concerned about the infromation in the study you linked to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, rikyrah&#8230;`sigh` here, too. Frankly, I don&#8217;t especially care about Maxim&#8217;s and AfterEllen&#8217;s standards of black beauty, but I am concerned about the infromation in the study you linked to.</p>
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		<title>By: Symphony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Symphony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug the problem isn&#039;t that Rihanna and Jennifer are in the top 10 on the lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug the problem isn&#8217;t that Rihanna and Jennifer are in the top 10 on the lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the Blacks folks I know knew she was one of us since Flashdance. Nothing new. However, I am sad that this skin tone discrimination is still so strong among us. We tell our young ones that they are beautiful/handsome no matter what, but when they see stats like the article rikyrah linked, it&#039;s like nothing has changed. This is not only hurtful because of what it does to us all, but my daughter and I are of drastically different skin tones and are subject to insensitive comments all the time. People think they are being inquisitive and nice, but it&#039;s just insulting. I have taken to answering inquiries with a simple &quot;Have you heard of genetics?&quot; What can we do that we haven&#039;t been doing to make this go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the Blacks folks I know knew she was one of us since Flashdance. Nothing new. However, I am sad that this skin tone discrimination is still so strong among us. We tell our young ones that they are beautiful/handsome no matter what, but when they see stats like the article rikyrah linked, it&#8217;s like nothing has changed. This is not only hurtful because of what it does to us all, but my daughter and I are of drastically different skin tones and are subject to insensitive comments all the time. People think they are being inquisitive and nice, but it&#8217;s just insulting. I have taken to answering inquiries with a simple &#8220;Have you heard of genetics?&#8221; What can we do that we haven&#8217;t been doing to make this go away?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almost all lesbians know j. Beals is black b/c it&#039;s written into the &quot;l word&quot;. It&#039;s only straight people who don&#039;t know she&#039;s black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almost all lesbians know j. Beals is black b/c it&#8217;s written into the &#8220;l word&#8221;. It&#8217;s only straight people who don&#8217;t know she&#8217;s black.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a sad commentary:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blackcollegewire.org/studentlife/070611_colorism/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Students Still Favor Lighter Skin, Study Finds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A money quote:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Ross study indicated that only 16.4 percent of women would prefer to date a person of a lighter complexion and 16.8 percent of women would want to marry a person with light skin. The study showed that 33.3 percent of men preferred to date a person of a lighter complexion and 38.3 would prefer lighter skin in a marriage partner. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All I can do is go, &#039;Sigh&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;STILL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a sad commentary:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.blackcollegewire.org/studentlife/070611_colorism/" REL="nofollow">Black Students Still Favor Lighter Skin, Study Finds</a></p>
<p>A money quote:</p>
<p><i>The Ross study indicated that only 16.4 percent of women would prefer to date a person of a lighter complexion and 16.8 percent of women would want to marry a person with light skin. The study showed that 33.3 percent of men preferred to date a person of a lighter complexion and 38.3 would prefer lighter skin in a marriage partner. </i></p>
<p>All I can do is go, &#8216;Sigh&#8217;</p>
<p>STILL?</p>
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		<title>By: dougk</title>
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		<dc:creator>dougk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sorry, but both women are beautiful, talented and making money..that&#039;s a problem?  have you never heard the adage &quot;any publicity is good publicity&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sorry, but both women are beautiful, talented and making money..that&#8217;s a problem?  have you never heard the adage &#8220;any publicity is good publicity&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: mike in dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike in dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, it&#039;s a fair and legitimate criticism.  It occurs to me that there are now a few FHM/maxim type men&#039;s mags which cater to a black readership, have any of them published a &quot;top 100&quot; list of this sort?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would note that askmen.com has several women of color in their top 99 list, and the current #1 is Beyonce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, it&#8217;s a fair and legitimate criticism.  It occurs to me that there are now a few FHM/maxim type men&#8217;s mags which cater to a black readership, have any of them published a &#8220;top 100&#8243; list of this sort?</p>
<p>I would note that askmen.com has several women of color in their top 99 list, and the current #1 is Beyonce.</p>
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