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	<title>Comments on: What Martin Would Say About Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: imsmall</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/what-martin-would-say-about-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1825</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THINK TWICE&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;O, it is well, to serve one´s country,&lt;br/&gt;The homeland to preserve, and keep&lt;br/&gt;Secure--though war no childish stunt be,&lt;br/&gt;While we that serve do get in deep.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;O, I have heard from Wilfred Owen&lt;br/&gt;That it is proud, to fight and die&lt;br/&gt;For principles--or people goin´&lt;br/&gt;Out to the mall to shop and buy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yet note as well, it is engaged&lt;br/&gt;These recent years, in a great struggle,&lt;br/&gt;Based upon lies, while men enraged&lt;br/&gt;Self-zone to places that no drug´ll:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is a long way back, if ever&lt;br/&gt;Return to normalcy be had:&lt;br/&gt;Permanently we run for cover&lt;br/&gt;As realize that war is bad.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most certainly, this war unjust&lt;br/&gt;As good for well-paid profiteers&lt;br/&gt;But not for us--it has gone bust,&lt;br/&gt;Unprincipled, and ours the jeers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Therefore, young man, although you might&lt;br/&gt;Consider an enlistment, first&lt;br/&gt;Heed words of those, with second sight,&lt;br/&gt;As saw the promises turn cursed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Enlist you might, but you will serve&lt;br/&gt;The worst of profit-driven men:&lt;br/&gt;In this case, you may have the nerve&lt;br/&gt;But nerve can´t calm a conscience when&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You realize that you were made&lt;br/&gt;A fool--the mind tries to resist&lt;br/&gt;The notion: causes are portrayed,&lt;br/&gt;But for this I would not enlist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THINK TWICE</p>
<p>O, it is well, to serve one´s country,<br />The homeland to preserve, and keep<br />Secure&#8211;though war no childish stunt be,<br />While we that serve do get in deep.</p>
<p>O, I have heard from Wilfred Owen<br />That it is proud, to fight and die<br />For principles&#8211;or people goin´<br />Out to the mall to shop and buy.</p>
<p>Yet note as well, it is engaged<br />These recent years, in a great struggle,<br />Based upon lies, while men enraged<br />Self-zone to places that no drug´ll:</p>
<p>It is a long way back, if ever<br />Return to normalcy be had:<br />Permanently we run for cover<br />As realize that war is bad.</p>
<p>Most certainly, this war unjust<br />As good for well-paid profiteers<br />But not for us&#8211;it has gone bust,<br />Unprincipled, and ours the jeers.</p>
<p>Therefore, young man, although you might<br />Consider an enlistment, first<br />Heed words of those, with second sight,<br />As saw the promises turn cursed.</p>
<p>Enlist you might, but you will serve<br />The worst of profit-driven men:<br />In this case, you may have the nerve<br />But nerve can´t calm a conscience when</p>
<p>You realize that you were made<br />A fool&#8211;the mind tries to resist<br />The notion: causes are portrayed,<br />But for this I would not enlist.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronzetrinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronzetrinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Blogger, you are invited to become a member of the Afrospear. We are a group of concerned African Diaspora bloggers who discuss problems that affect people of African descent, create solutions and action plans to solve those problems, and inact those plans using internet resources.  Please sign up for the Afrospear Forum at <a href="http://afrospear.jconserv.net/" rel="nofollow">http://afrospear.jconserv.net/</a> , visit the Afrospear Think Tank at <a href="http://afrospear.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://afrospear.wordpress.com/</a> , and take a look at the Afrospear Online Paper at <a href="http://www.pageflakes.com/bronzetrinity" rel="nofollow">http://www.pageflakes.com/bronzetrinity</a> . We want to change the world and we can do it with your help. Please join because we value your membership. If you do not want to join then please consider getting involved with the Save Darfur campaign and the Boycott China to Save Darfur campaigns. You can read about them here <a href="http://www.savedarfur.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savedarfur.org/</a> , and here <a href="http://bronzetrinity.efx2.com/view/90069/" rel="nofollow">http://bronzetrinity.efx2.com/view/90069/</a> Take Action and Please Spread the Word!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;The enemy in Vietnam had neither the intent nor the capability to strike our homeland,&quot; he said. &quot;The enemy in Iraq does.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To start, Vietnam was a greed fest for Defense Contractors too, a distinction shared with Iraq .  That said, the Vietnamese , as we were told back then , were proxies  , the implied enemy  of that war was the Soviet Union , who certainly could have hit us at home , had cooler and obviously wiser  heads not avoided a direct fight with them .Bush makes me ill , even his baseless rhetoric is without foundation and detached even from documented history .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;The enemy in Vietnam had neither the intent nor the capability to strike our homeland,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The enemy in Iraq does.&#8221;</p>
<p>To start, Vietnam was a greed fest for Defense Contractors too, a distinction shared with Iraq .  That said, the Vietnamese , as we were told back then , were proxies  , the implied enemy  of that war was the Soviet Union , who certainly could have hit us at home , had cooler and obviously wiser  heads not avoided a direct fight with them .Bush makes me ill , even his baseless rhetoric is without foundation and detached even from documented history .</p>
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