<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Al-Qaeda Issues Specific Call to African-Americans</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:23:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Celebrity Blog</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1004096</link> <dc:creator>Celebrity Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:04:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-1004096</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Check These Out...&lt;/strong&gt;[...]check below, are some totally unrelated websites to ours, however, they are most trustworthy sources that we use[...]...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Check These Out&#8230;</strong></p><p>[...]check below, are some totally unrelated websites to ours, however, they are most trustworthy sources that we use[...]&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: zenblkboi</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link> <dc:creator>zenblkboi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-637</guid> <description>ok, first of all I DOUBT most black Americans know about the Arab-Black conflicts.  My mother thinks that France and Europe are two different countries, so I KNOW she doesnt&#039; know  this.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Secondly,  I dont&#039; think most Americans know that Al-Queda was created or at least funded by the US goverment in the past.  So, taken on it&#039;s surface, being against the war, and understanding only that Al-Queda is a group trying to stop the American occupation,  I could TOTALLY see why Black Americans would support Al-Queda, or at least have some solidarity ( maybe not connection, and probably not gonna involve any suicide-bombings).  I mean, take MEND for example .  They are killing people and taking people hostage in Nigeria to stop the oil companies from exploiting them.  If they ask Black Americans to support them, I doubt most would,  but most could clearly sympathize.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, first of all I DOUBT most black Americans know about the Arab-Black conflicts.  My mother thinks that France and Europe are two different countries, so I KNOW she doesnt&#8217; know  this.</p><p>Secondly,  I dont&#8217; think most Americans know that Al-Queda was created or at least funded by the US goverment in the past.  So, taken on it&#8217;s surface, being against the war, and understanding only that Al-Queda is a group trying to stop the American occupation,  I could TOTALLY see why Black Americans would support Al-Queda, or at least have some solidarity ( maybe not connection, and probably not gonna involve any suicide-bombings).  I mean, take MEND for example .  They are killing people and taking people hostage in Nigeria to stop the oil companies from exploiting them.  If they ask Black Americans to support them, I doubt most would,  but most could clearly sympathize.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: THE ARCHITECT</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link> <dc:creator>THE ARCHITECT</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-631</guid> <description>another way of looking at this... al-Qaeda certainly has little love for black america--any more than they have love for anyone (black, muslim, or otherwise) that does not support their agenda. however what they are doing is old hat in the U.S.--even before it. during the American Revolution, the British enticed black slaves to join them. and they did! tens of thousands (the majority) of slaves who chose sides ran to the British for safety/freedom; many joined up to fight American colonists. in fact, the role of slavery (fear by colonists of slave revolts the British threatened to incite) is an often neglected part of the road to Revolution; white colonists joined together to fight the British not just for &quot;liberty,&quot; but out of belief that they needed &quot;white unity&quot; against black slaves and native americans. on the flipside, there were alot of blacks--especially free--who joined the colonists, also hoping for freedom. tactic has changed a bit since then. instead of enticing blacks to join up, those fighting the U.S. try to get blacks to opt out. in the brutal US occupation of the Phillippines, insurgents there pleaded with black America to not engage in war with them. same happened in Korea, in Vietnam, in Iraq, etc. during the Iran hostage crisis, women and *blacks* were released. in most cases what is happening here is America&#039;s shortcomings are being exposed. black America become symbols of American hypocrisy, unfulfilled promises, and there is an attempt to mock the U.S. by exploiting those embarrassing realities. it scores a psychological and political hit against their American enemy, in the same way the U.S. uses propaganda to cause disunity among it&#039;s enemies.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another way of looking at this&#8230; al-Qaeda certainly has little love for black america&#8211;any more than they have love for anyone (black, muslim, or otherwise) that does not support their agenda. however what they are doing is old hat in the U.S.&#8211;even before it. during the American Revolution, the British enticed black slaves to join them. and they did! tens of thousands (the majority) of slaves who chose sides ran to the British for safety/freedom; many joined up to fight American colonists. in fact, the role of slavery (fear by colonists of slave revolts the British threatened to incite) is an often neglected part of the road to Revolution; white colonists joined together to fight the British not just for &#8220;liberty,&#8221; but out of belief that they needed &#8220;white unity&#8221; against black slaves and native americans. on the flipside, there were alot of blacks&#8211;especially free&#8211;who joined the colonists, also hoping for freedom. tactic has changed a bit since then. instead of enticing blacks to join up, those fighting the U.S. try to get blacks to opt out. in the brutal US occupation of the Phillippines, insurgents there pleaded with black America to not engage in war with them. same happened in Korea, in Vietnam, in Iraq, etc. during the Iran hostage crisis, women and *blacks* were released. in most cases what is happening here is America&#8217;s shortcomings are being exposed. black America become symbols of American hypocrisy, unfulfilled promises, and there is an attempt to mock the U.S. by exploiting those embarrassing realities. it scores a psychological and political hit against their American enemy, in the same way the U.S. uses propaganda to cause disunity among it&#8217;s enemies.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Angel H.</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-624</link> <dc:creator>Angel H.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-624</guid> <description>Before my dad was deployed, he was told that if he and any other Black men were captured they would more than likely show them more mercy than the White men, because they sympathized with the oppression of American Blacks. (&quot;Mercy&quot; meaning a quick shot in the head versus a long, tortuous death. Like that was supposed to make us feel any better.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before my dad was deployed, he was told that if he and any other Black men were captured they would more than likely show them more mercy than the White men, because they sympathized with the oppression of American Blacks. (&#8220;Mercy&#8221; meaning a quick shot in the head versus a long, tortuous death. Like that was supposed to make us feel any better.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-622</guid> <description>I&#039;m surprised you guys didn&#039;t do a little more &#039;digging&#039; to find out that the whole al Qaeda stuff was generated as a result of wanting to...here comes the shocker...invade Iraq.  On the day of the attack, there&#039;s a documented memo of Bush calculating how long it would take for them to go after Iraq with American support.  He was told that it would be more strategic to go to Afghanistan first.  All of a sudden, this &#039;unorganized&#039; network has become the most organized, calculated non-state infrastructure that has the capability of striking anyone at any time with any reason...blah blah blah.  And now, they have the ability to recruit any group of people!?!  How many #2 al Qaeda leaders is Bush going to kill before he finds this so-called #1?  Do a little more &#039;digging&#039; and discover the &quot;Art of War&quot;.  Maybe that would help.  There are so many holes in the 9/11 story that they had to have a 9/11 commission who&#039;s conclusion was...here we go again...filled with holes!  All I&#039;m saying is to &#039;dig&#039; some more.  That&#039;s all.  I&#039;m sure your local university library would let you have access to academic journals and faculty-published work on this subject.  There&#039;s a lot of it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you guys didn&#8217;t do a little more &#8216;digging&#8217; to find out that the whole al Qaeda stuff was generated as a result of wanting to&#8230;here comes the shocker&#8230;invade Iraq.  On the day of the attack, there&#8217;s a documented memo of Bush calculating how long it would take for them to go after Iraq with American support.  He was told that it would be more strategic to go to Afghanistan first.  All of a sudden, this &#8216;unorganized&#8217; network has become the most organized, calculated non-state infrastructure that has the capability of striking anyone at any time with any reason&#8230;blah blah blah.  And now, they have the ability to recruit any group of people!?!  How many #2 al Qaeda leaders is Bush going to kill before he finds this so-called #1?  Do a little more &#8216;digging&#8217; and discover the &#8220;Art of War&#8221;.  Maybe that would help.  There are so many holes in the 9/11 story that they had to have a 9/11 commission who&#8217;s conclusion was&#8230;here we go again&#8230;filled with holes!  All I&#8217;m saying is to &#8216;dig&#8217; some more.  That&#8217;s all.  I&#8217;m sure your local university library would let you have access to academic journals and faculty-published work on this subject.  There&#8217;s a lot of it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jen</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-621</link> <dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-621</guid> <description>I can&#039;t believe anyone would take this serious except for racist Republicans. Black people aren&#039;t going to blow themselves up over nothing like these extremists. In addition, many already know the long history behind Arab and Black conflicts, which is continually being prepetuated in Darfur. Further, many Black people probably don&#039;t know of Al Qeada nor care about them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe anyone would take this serious except for racist Republicans. Black people aren&#8217;t going to blow themselves up over nothing like these extremists. In addition, many already know the long history behind Arab and Black conflicts, which is continually being prepetuated in Darfur. Further, many Black people probably don&#8217;t know of Al Qeada nor care about them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Exodus Mentality</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link> <dc:creator>Exodus Mentality</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-618</guid> <description>Say Al Qaeda and everyone gets all nervous and starts running for cover.   Is it so completely unreasonable that some members of al Qaeda would want some of the same things that the Black community would want.  Their primary complain appears to be the unwanted presence of U.S. armed forces in middle east countries.  I have a problem with America&#039;s imperialistic military assaults all over the world, so we have at least some common ground.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But here we go again, the white folks are going to demonize us (yet again) if we don&#039;t go along with their idea of what this country should be doing and who we should be doing it to.  There are criminals in the al qaeda organization who have decided to fight fire with fire.  But two wrongs don&#039;t make a right, and there are criminals in the U.S, government who have done worse in the name of American democracy.  So I don&#039;t support tactics that target any civilian population, even if you consider yourself to be at war, which is not an unreasonable position for al-Qaeda to take considering that we were over there long before they ever came over here.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We got to stop falling for that okey-doke where we let someone else determine what we can say and who e can ally with.  I could care less what some project for a new american century republican thinks about my political or social agenda.  They do not have my best interest at heart and in some cases the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend.  Black folks above all others have earned the right to be hyper critical of this country, and even while we maintain our allegiance to the country, we have a duty to speak out against the wrong things this country does.  If that means that we will be advocating for the same position as  al-Qaeda or Iraqi &quot;insurgents&quot;, so what?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say Al Qaeda and everyone gets all nervous and starts running for cover.   Is it so completely unreasonable that some members of al Qaeda would want some of the same things that the Black community would want.  Their primary complain appears to be the unwanted presence of U.S. armed forces in middle east countries.  I have a problem with America&#8217;s imperialistic military assaults all over the world, so we have at least some common ground.</p><p>But here we go again, the white folks are going to demonize us (yet again) if we don&#8217;t go along with their idea of what this country should be doing and who we should be doing it to.  There are criminals in the al qaeda organization who have decided to fight fire with fire.  But two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right, and there are criminals in the U.S, government who have done worse in the name of American democracy.  So I don&#8217;t support tactics that target any civilian population, even if you consider yourself to be at war, which is not an unreasonable position for al-Qaeda to take considering that we were over there long before they ever came over here.</p><p>We got to stop falling for that okey-doke where we let someone else determine what we can say and who e can ally with.  I could care less what some project for a new american century republican thinks about my political or social agenda.  They do not have my best interest at heart and in some cases the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend.  Black folks above all others have earned the right to be hyper critical of this country, and even while we maintain our allegiance to the country, we have a duty to speak out against the wrong things this country does.  If that means that we will be advocating for the same position as  al-Qaeda or Iraqi &#8220;insurgents&#8221;, so what?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-611</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-611</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt; Still, al-Qaeda&#039;s propoganda bears watching if only because racist Republicans will use it as a way to poison our positive trajectory. Republicans will throw this in our face and try to drive a wedge between us and other progressives. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jill, did you watch Tucker today? He had on some guy from the American Islamic Institute to talk about the recently released poll.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Guess which statistic, Tucker decided to keep on flashing at the bottom of the screen? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt; 9% of African-American Muslims had a favorable view of Al-Qaeda.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He just couldn&#039;t seem to get off of that statistic. He didn&#039;t even show the one where 20% of the Young Muslims thought suicide bombings were ok as much. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Uh huh. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We see where THAT is going. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I told you, it&#039;s just to get us caught up in this mess.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Still, al-Qaeda&#8217;s propoganda bears watching if only because racist Republicans will use it as a way to poison our positive trajectory. Republicans will throw this in our face and try to drive a wedge between us and other progressives. </i></p><p>Jill, did you watch Tucker today? He had on some guy from the American Islamic Institute to talk about the recently released poll.</p><p>Guess which statistic, Tucker decided to keep on flashing at the bottom of the screen?</p><p><b> 9% of African-American Muslims had a favorable view of Al-Qaeda.</b></p><p>He just couldn&#8217;t seem to get off of that statistic. He didn&#8217;t even show the one where 20% of the Young Muslims thought suicide bombings were ok as much.</p><p>Uh huh.</p><p>We see where THAT is going.</p><p>I told you, it&#8217;s just to get us caught up in this mess.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rikyrah</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2007/05/al-qaeda-issues-specific-call-to-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-603</link> <dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:31:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=314#comment-603</guid> <description>I&#039;m glad you posted this. We have our problems with America, but I am an American. My passport was paid, in blood, sweat and tears by my ancestors. My ancestors are from Africa, but I am an American. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is my country, and I have no delusions. Doesn&#039;t matter that I never voted for Shrub, The Evil One, or his neo-con cabal. To Al-Qaeda, we are ALL &#039;infidels&#039; worthy of death.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They don&#039;t fool me. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Black folk might be crazy, but we ain&#039;t THAT crazy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Plus, I just think it&#039;s a plot to drag us into their mess. We got enough problems of our own.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you posted this. We have our problems with America, but I am an American. My passport was paid, in blood, sweat and tears by my ancestors. My ancestors are from Africa, but I am an American.</p><p>This is my country, and I have no delusions. Doesn&#8217;t matter that I never voted for Shrub, The Evil One, or his neo-con cabal. To Al-Qaeda, we are ALL &#8216;infidels&#8217; worthy of death.</p><p>They don&#8217;t fool me.</p><p>Black folk might be crazy, but we ain&#8217;t THAT crazy.</p><p>Plus, I just think it&#8217;s a plot to drag us into their mess. We got enough problems of our own.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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