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	<title>Comments on: Why Churchgoing Black Women Like Obama</title>
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		<title>By: Francis L. Holland Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I support Hillary Clinton for president and Barack Obama for vice president, I agree with everything this woman has said in her e-mail.  Barack Obama would make an excellent president if elected, and the fact of having the first Black president would do for Blacks the same thing that having a Corvette does for Chevrolet:  Having a race car in the family makes ALL the cars seem a little bit faster and better. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If Barack is elected president, then whites will also want to hire some additional university presidents and Wall Street lawyers who look like Barack Obama, because the perceived status of ALL Black people will have risen.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To put it another way, when you are a member of a group that is presumed inelible for responsible positions because of your skin color, that costs you money every single day.  Anything positive you can do to remove that presumption of ineligibility is worth doing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Although we cannot know that Obama is &quot;Black like us&quot;, we can be assured that he is more Black than anyone else who is running.  The real question should be, &quot;Whose Blacker?  Barack Obama one of his opponents?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I support Hillary because we need national health care, we need for ALL women to be viewed as equals with men, and we can only achieve those goals with  a Democratic candidate who has the experience and resources to take on the Republicans head on, even with all of the smearing that they will be doing.  Barack has no national experience at weathering those smears while Hillary has decades of experience at that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If Barack comes in first, he MUST be our Democratic nominee.  If he comes in second then the person who comes in first MUST NOT pick some white guy from nowhere over Barack Obama as the vice presidential nominee.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There MUST be a Black person on the Democratic ticket in 2008 if a Black person comes in first or second in terms of delegates won in the primaries.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The criticism of Clinton are true in the letter above, but Clinton also appointed more high-level Black officials than any other president always has.  He also defended affirmative action, defended women&#039;s rights, and got us through eight years without getting our troops shut up or starting a war.  Blacks were more likely to be employed when Clinton was president.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I strongly encourage supporters of Barack Obama to work hard for him so that he will at least make it onto the ticket as the vice presidential nominee.  That&#039;ll depend in large part on how many people turn out to vote for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I support Hillary Clinton for president and Barack Obama for vice president, I agree with everything this woman has said in her e-mail.  Barack Obama would make an excellent president if elected, and the fact of having the first Black president would do for Blacks the same thing that having a Corvette does for Chevrolet:  Having a race car in the family makes ALL the cars seem a little bit faster and better. </p>
<p>If Barack is elected president, then whites will also want to hire some additional university presidents and Wall Street lawyers who look like Barack Obama, because the perceived status of ALL Black people will have risen.</p>
<p>To put it another way, when you are a member of a group that is presumed inelible for responsible positions because of your skin color, that costs you money every single day.  Anything positive you can do to remove that presumption of ineligibility is worth doing.</p>
<p>Although we cannot know that Obama is &#8220;Black like us&#8221;, we can be assured that he is more Black than anyone else who is running.  The real question should be, &#8220;Whose Blacker?  Barack Obama one of his opponents?&#8221;</p>
<p>I support Hillary because we need national health care, we need for ALL women to be viewed as equals with men, and we can only achieve those goals with  a Democratic candidate who has the experience and resources to take on the Republicans head on, even with all of the smearing that they will be doing.  Barack has no national experience at weathering those smears while Hillary has decades of experience at that.</p>
<p>If Barack comes in first, he MUST be our Democratic nominee.  If he comes in second then the person who comes in first MUST NOT pick some white guy from nowhere over Barack Obama as the vice presidential nominee.</p>
<p>There MUST be a Black person on the Democratic ticket in 2008 if a Black person comes in first or second in terms of delegates won in the primaries.</p>
<p>The criticism of Clinton are true in the letter above, but Clinton also appointed more high-level Black officials than any other president always has.  He also defended affirmative action, defended women&#8217;s rights, and got us through eight years without getting our troops shut up or starting a war.  Blacks were more likely to be employed when Clinton was president.</p>
<p>But I strongly encourage supporters of Barack Obama to work hard for him so that he will at least make it onto the ticket as the vice presidential nominee.  That&#8217;ll depend in large part on how many people turn out to vote for him.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this letter over at Blackprof.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Having watched SOTBU live that Saturday, I just shook my head. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am an Obama supporter. I have my reasons.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First and foremost, I believe we, as a country, need to have a credible Black candidate run for President. The republic needs to know that it won&#039;t fall apart if a Black man has a legitimate shot. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am no dewey-eyed liberal. I don&#039;t look towards the man as any Savior. I just need for him to be a credible candidate. Wanted the run with Colin Powell, but didn&#039;t get it, so I&#039;ll take it now. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While I, and my sisters have been in the Obama camp from the beginning, my mother has not. She&#039;s been in Camp Hillary. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Until the Selma speech. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My mother is STILL talking about his Selma speech, and I think he&#039;s turned a corner with her. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My mother watched SOTBU. I make sure of it, and her favorite was Dr. Julia Hare. She is &#039;entertained&#039; by some of those on stage, but considering that my mother doesn&#039;t &#039;get&#039; why Black folks have stopped raising their children, Dr. Hare&#039;s remarks were right up her alley. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She also admires Representative Ellison because of how &#039; those people&#039; tried to attack &#039;that young man for wanting to swear in on his holy book&#039;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She also loved Tim Reid&#039;s comments about &#039;pull up your pants and get a job&#039;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mama respects Tavis Smiley. She believes he&#039;s trying to &#039; uplift the race&#039;. He and Tom Joyner (she loves Tom&#039;s HBCU involvement).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this letter over at Blackprof.com</p>
<p>Having watched SOTBU live that Saturday, I just shook my head. </p>
<p>I am an Obama supporter. I have my reasons.</p>
<p>First and foremost, I believe we, as a country, need to have a credible Black candidate run for President. The republic needs to know that it won&#8217;t fall apart if a Black man has a legitimate shot. </p>
<p>I am no dewey-eyed liberal. I don&#8217;t look towards the man as any Savior. I just need for him to be a credible candidate. Wanted the run with Colin Powell, but didn&#8217;t get it, so I&#8217;ll take it now. </p>
<p>While I, and my sisters have been in the Obama camp from the beginning, my mother has not. She&#8217;s been in Camp Hillary. </p>
<p>Until the Selma speech. </p>
<p>My mother is STILL talking about his Selma speech, and I think he&#8217;s turned a corner with her. </p>
<p>My mother watched SOTBU. I make sure of it, and her favorite was Dr. Julia Hare. She is &#8216;entertained&#8217; by some of those on stage, but considering that my mother doesn&#8217;t &#8216;get&#8217; why Black folks have stopped raising their children, Dr. Hare&#8217;s remarks were right up her alley. </p>
<p>She also admires Representative Ellison because of how &#8216; those people&#8217; tried to attack &#8216;that young man for wanting to swear in on his holy book&#8217;. </p>
<p>She also loved Tim Reid&#8217;s comments about &#8216;pull up your pants and get a job&#8217;. </p>
<p>Mama respects Tavis Smiley. She believes he&#8217;s trying to &#8216; uplift the race&#8217;. He and Tom Joyner (she loves Tom&#8217;s HBCU involvement).</p>
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